Lay the Draw then Move Profits to Home & Away Teams Guardian Automation Bot

Sarelis
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Hello,

how to move profits to scored goal team & draw?
conceded goal team = 0
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Sarelis wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:26 pm
Hello,

how to move profits to scored goal team & draw?
conceded goal team = 0
I don't understand your question can you please clarify?
Sarelis
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for example
Liverpool - Chelsea
I lay the draw for £10
Liverpool scored goal
Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea
and i wanna that profit move to Liverpool and the draw, not Chelsea

Liverpool £2
Draw £2
Chelsea £0

Not for home & away teams, but for team who scored & Draw
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:24 pm
Sarelis wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:26 pm
Hello,

how to move profits to scored goal team & draw?
conceded goal team = 0
I don't understand your question can you please clarify?
for example
Liverpool - Chelsea
I lay the draw for £10
Liverpool scored goal
Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea
and i wanna that profit move to Liverpool and the draw, not Chelsea

Liverpool £2
Draw £2
Chelsea £0

Not for home & away teams, but for team who scored & Draw
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Dallas
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Sarelis wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:26 pm
Dallas wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:24 pm
Sarelis wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:26 pm
Hello,

how to move profits to scored goal team & draw?
conceded goal team = 0
I don't understand your question can you please clarify?
for example
Liverpool - Chelsea
I lay the draw for £10
Liverpool scored goal
Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea
and i wanna that profit move to Liverpool and the draw, not Chelsea

Liverpool £2
Draw £2
Chelsea £0

Not for home & away teams, but for team who scored & Draw
OK i see what you mean now, the tricky part when moving the profits in this way (without excel) is the advanced automation has no way to test the profit secured on the draw ie, an early goal would mean fewer profits to move compared to a later goal - unless you were greening the draw at a fixed profit rather than after a goal, then you would know how much was to be moved across.
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craignmoss
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Hi,

I just thought I'd gve this automation a go in practice mode and set it off in 3 games. It worked fine in 1 game that finished 1-0 but I have questions around the other 2. First up, I have amended the rule slightly to back at 2nd best price but even doing that my prodift ended up:

H - 0.18p
A - 0.18p
D - 0.07p

I assume this is due to a lack of liquidity but wanted to check. On the other game, I have no idea what happened but it seems like when there was an equaliser it triggered another bet:

24/07/2021 16:44:01: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.00 Lay bet placed on The Draw at 3. Fully matched at 3. Ref: 10006
24/07/2021 16:45:05: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 16:50:12: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 16:50:18: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/07/2021 16:50:18: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 16:50:21: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 16:59:24: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: goal = 1
24/07/2021 17:17:07: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 17:17:10: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 17:18:51: [G_Auto 1] : £ 20.00 Back bet placed on The Draw at 1.1. Fully matched at 2.44. Ref: 10009
24/07/2021 18:01:46: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 18:01:49: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 18:06:28: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 18:07:25: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 18:30:26: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 18:31:57: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 18:45:09: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

Has anyone got any idea why it triggered a back bet for £20? It meant overall my position was:

H - (-£19)
A - (-£19)
D - £26.80

Thanks.
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Dallas
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craignmoss wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:53 pm
Hi,

I just thought I'd gve this automation a go in practice mode and set it off in 3 games. It worked fine in 1 game that finished 1-0 but I have questions around the other 2. First up, I have amended the rule slightly to back at 2nd best price but even doing that my prodift ended up:

H - 0.18p
A - 0.18p
D - 0.07p

I assume this is due to a lack of liquidity but wanted to check. On the other game, I have no idea what happened but it seems like when there was an equaliser it triggered another bet:

24/07/2021 16:44:01: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.00 Lay bet placed on The Draw at 3. Fully matched at 3. Ref: 10006
24/07/2021 16:45:05: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 16:50:12: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 16:50:18: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/07/2021 16:50:18: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 16:50:21: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 16:59:24: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: goal = 1
24/07/2021 17:17:07: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 17:17:10: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 17:18:51: [G_Auto 1] : £ 20.00 Back bet placed on The Draw at 1.1. Fully matched at 2.44. Ref: 10009
24/07/2021 18:01:46: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 18:01:49: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 18:06:28: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 18:07:25: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 18:30:26: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/07/2021 18:31:57: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/07/2021 18:45:09: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

Has anyone got any idea why it triggered a back bet for £20? It meant overall my position was:

H - (-£19)
A - (-£19)
D - £26.80

Thanks.
That log looks a little odd, there seems to be a 6 minute delay to KO, then after the first goal the market remains suspended for 20mins - by which time more goals may have been scored but no signals could update and when the market unsuspend the best has been triggered very low odds, possibly because it had been suspended so long.

Also it should be laying for a liability of £10 but it looks like stake has been edited?
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craignmoss
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Thanks Dallas, this was a low-profile game that I was just testing on. It was delayed by a few minutes and I had altered the stake. I can't remember the goal times but there was more than one. I'll deem this an anomaly because I have run the rule a few times since with success. 👍

Thanks,

Craig
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craignmoss
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Hi guys,

I have another question about this rule. There may be times leading up to kick-off where I see what I deem to be value and in that scenario, I'll jump on laying the draw early. I thought the following condition would then stop the automation laying the draw again but it doesn't. What am I doing wrong?
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craignmoss wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 5:20 pm
Hi guys,

I have another question about this rule. There may be times leading up to kick-off where I see what I deem to be value and in that scenario, I'll jump on laying the draw early. I thought the following condition would then stop the automation laying the draw again but it doesn't. What am I doing wrong?

LTD.JPG
If that condition is on your lay the draw rule, and you've already had any lay bets matched on the draw that will stop it from triggering
Undockedstar
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Hi,

i have been playing with this automation. On a lot of the matches it moves most of the profits onto the draw leaving the teams in a red position. Any idea why ? I have adjusted the stake whilst testing and changed to 2nd best price. Thank you. Log from one is below

05/09/2021 14:41:41: [G_Auto 2] : Store Value for Akron-L Togliatti: score_h = 0
05/09/2021 15:59:00: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.36 Lay bet placed on The Draw at 3.2. Fully matched at 3.18088235294118. Ref: 243305066710
05/09/2021 16:03:40: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
05/09/2021 16:03:40: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
05/09/2021 16:03:43: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
05/09/2021 16:12:08: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
05/09/2021 16:12:11: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
05/09/2021 16:13:12: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: goal = 1
05/09/2021 16:13:32: [G_Auto 2] : Automation Signal for Akron-L Togliatti: homegoal = 1
05/09/2021 16:13:32: [G_Auto 2] : Store Value for Akron-L Togliatti: score_h = 1
05/09/2021 16:13:53: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.97 Back bet placed on The Draw at 4.1. Fully matched at 4.1. Ref: 243306616647
05/09/2021 16:24:36: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.07 Back bet placed on The Draw at 3.8. Fully matched at 3.85. Ref: 243307931537
05/09/2021 16:34:02: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
05/09/2021 16:34:06: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
05/09/2021 16:49:40: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
05/09/2021 16:49:42: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
05/09/2021 16:51:14: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: goal = 2
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Undockedstar wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:24 pm
Hi,

i have been playing with this automation. On a lot of the matches it moves most of the profits onto the draw leaving the teams in a red position. Any idea why ? I have adjusted the stake whilst testing and changed to 2nd best price. Thank you. Log from one is below

05/09/2021 14:41:41: [G_Auto 2] : Store Value for Akron-L Togliatti: score_h = 0
05/09/2021 15:59:00: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.36 Lay bet placed on The Draw at 3.2. Fully matched at 3.18088235294118. Ref: 243305066710
05/09/2021 16:03:40: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
05/09/2021 16:03:40: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
05/09/2021 16:03:43: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
05/09/2021 16:12:08: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
05/09/2021 16:12:11: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
05/09/2021 16:13:12: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: goal = 1
05/09/2021 16:13:32: [G_Auto 2] : Automation Signal for Akron-L Togliatti: homegoal = 1
05/09/2021 16:13:32: [G_Auto 2] : Store Value for Akron-L Togliatti: score_h = 1
05/09/2021 16:13:53: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.97 Back bet placed on The Draw at 4.1. Fully matched at 4.1. Ref: 243306616647
05/09/2021 16:24:36: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.07 Back bet placed on The Draw at 3.8. Fully matched at 3.85. Ref: 243307931537
05/09/2021 16:34:02: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
05/09/2021 16:34:06: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
05/09/2021 16:49:40: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
05/09/2021 16:49:42: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
05/09/2021 16:51:14: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: goal = 2
It placed the correct bets uptill 16:13:53 at which time all the profits will have been on the home/away teams

But according to your log the back bet rule triggered again 11mins later at 16:24:36 which is what caused the overbet - however the back bet rule is only armed to trigger 1 time.

For it to trigger again the rule will have needed to be re-applied to the market or was re-saved while it was still applied .
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shakey1964
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Hi All
I found this automation file worked well thanks Dallas
I had a 99% success rate on Sunday (the only one not to go was the NORAVANK game which never came out of suspension :evil: )
I was just generalising my criteria on Sunday but while I was fighting the winds going down to London last night started to refine my thoughts and when I got home knocked up this flow chart - which took ages so I wasnt able to load any games into guardian

A copy of this file is available to download from my Blog

https://bet-or-not.com/2022/02/21/lay-t ... low-chart/
FLOW CHART PICCY.png
As I said I haven't tested this yet so it should be used in-conjunction with practice mode.
If anyone has any suggestions or tweeks please feel free to air them
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shakey1964
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Hi All
I have amended the criteria on the over 1.5 goals % to 75% with the thinking that over 1.5 goals means that at least 2 goals have been scored in games where the two teams have played where ever or against whoever in the current season.
I stand by the 90% needed for over 0.5 goals in the first half for laying the draw in the half-time market with the fact that in the Crewe v Oxford game last night the % was 88% and it would have been so easy to disregard the 2% in a bout of undisciplined emotion as the only goal scored came in the 65th minute.
Using the criteria on the flow chart the following results are listed below

Premiership
Burnley v Tottenham - No Bet
Watford v Crystal Palace - No Bet
Liverpool v Leeds - LTD

Championship
Derby Co v Millwall - No Bet
Fulham v Peterboro - LTD
Huddersfield v Cardiff No Bet
QPR v Blackpool - LTD
Sheffield Utd v Blackburn - No Bet
Stoke v Luton - No Bet

Italy Serie B
Benevento v Como - LTD
Brescia v Ascoli - LTD
Crotone v Cosenza - No Bet
Frosinone v Reggina - No Bet
Lecce v Cittadella - No Bet

Scot Prem
Dundee v St Mirren - No Bet

I know that many of you will immediately point out that Spurs and Dundee are bound to score but the point of posting this is to stay focused on the current criteria and not deviate and be disciplined.
I will be open to constructive criticism tomorrow when the results are in and tweeks in the chart can be made
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shakey1964
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Is it possible to run this automation for the half time market and if the score is still 0-0 after 45 minutes it triggers a rescue package for the second half such as place a new lay bet for double the original liability
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