Lay Scorer & Green Up after 20mins Guardian Automation Bot

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badboy13 wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:00 pm
I'm finding if the first goal is scored just before half time, the 20 minute green up includes the 15 minute break so no chance of an equaliser as it greens up during half time, any way to fix that?
I have this in my own variation of this file, I've done it by using 2 lay rules and 2 green up rules
Lay A is armed till 30mins and sets signal X
Green A then triggers 20 mins after signal X is set

Lay B is armed 30 mins till 1hr 5mins and sets signal Y
Green Y then triggers 35 mins after signal Y is set

It doesn't give exactly 20mins all the time but you could add further ones depending on how close/precise to 20mins you wanted it

I also have conditions in the green after goal rule so only one or the other can trigger
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In the Southampton game tonight, Derby scored a goal, market was suspended/unsuspened and BetAngel placed lay bet, the goal was then reviewed by VAR and disallowed so odds went back up, BetAngel then traded out. Later Betfair voided the Lay bet leaving just the back bet. Is there a way of setting BetAngel placing that back bet so quickly?

1/16/2019 20:23:22: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
1/16/2019 20:24:28: [G_Auto] : £ 20.00 Lay bet placed on Derby at 2.2. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. ( Opening Stop at 3 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
1/16/2019 20:24:34: Stop triggered. Modify bet from 20 @ 2.2 to 20 @ 2.3
1/16/2019 20:25:29: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
1/16/2019 20:25:32: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
1/16/2019 20:26:58: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Derby by Backing 9.70 at 4.7
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Looks interesting.
How should the halftime break be handled?
I guess 15 minutes will be wasted if the first goal is made just before 45 min.
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badboy13 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:53 pm
In the Southampton game tonight, Derby scored a goal, market was suspended/unsuspened and BetAngel placed lay bet, the goal was then reviewed by VAR and disallowed so odds went back up, BetAngel then traded out. Later Betfair voided the Lay bet leaving just the back bet. Is there a way of setting BetAngel placing that back bet so quickly?

1/16/2019 20:23:22: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
1/16/2019 20:24:28: [G_Auto] : £ 20.00 Lay bet placed on Derby at 2.2. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. ( Opening Stop at 3 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
1/16/2019 20:24:34: Stop triggered. Modify bet from 20 @ 2.2 to 20 @ 2.3
1/16/2019 20:25:29: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
1/16/2019 20:25:32: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
1/16/2019 20:26:58: [G_Auto] : Placed closure bet with greening on Derby by Backing 9.70 at 4.7
Sorry must have missed this question,

You can delay a bet from triggering using signals, there's an example in the tennis shared files section you could copy from which shows the pricipals of the set up
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=11962
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krisa99 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:46 am
Looks interesting.
How should the halftime break be handled?
I guess 15 minutes will be wasted if the first goal is made just before 45 min.
The easiest way is perhaps to arm the lay scorer rule till around 30mins then add an identical rule to lay from 30mins onwards and change the signal name this sets
Then add another green up after 20mins rule with a 'Signal Changed condition'
Has the signal named (whatever you called your new signal
changed 2100 to 2160 secs

That will instruct it to trigger 35mins after the lay bet is placed (providing another goal hasn't been scored)
Allowing for 15mins at HT this will trigger after around 20mins of play time
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I have tried it out with a good result.

One issue I need to solve though:
A couple of times the goal is made, the layplaced signal is set and the bet is placed to the market.

20 seconds later the market is suspended by some reason and then back in unsuspended mode without any changes (no goals or other odds impacts).
This will cause the still unmatched bet to be canceled.

Since the signal is set no more attempt will be made.

For me it has happened when a lay is about to be placed but I guess there is a risk that the same problem happens at an equalizer or 2nd goal, if the market suspends before the green up is matched.
Any ideas how to handle?

2019-04-03 21:10:39: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
2019-04-03 21:10:42: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
2019-04-03 21:12:04: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: layplaced2 = 1
2019-04-03 21:12:09: [G_Auto] : k 30.00 Lay bet placed on Rayo Vallecano at 2.02. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 159795048583 ( Opening Stop at 3 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
2019-04-03 21:12:27: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
2019-04-03 21:12:34: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
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krisa99 wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:24 pm
I have tried it out with a good result.

One issue I need to solve though:
A couple of times the goal is made, the layplaced signal is set and the bet is placed to the market.

20 seconds later the market is suspended by some reason and then back in unsuspended mode without any changes (no goals or other odds impacts).
This will cause the still unmatched bet to be canceled.

Since the signal is set no more attempt will be made.

For me it has happened when a lay is about to be placed but I guess there is a risk that the same problem happens at an equalizer or 2nd goal, if the market suspends before the green up is matched.
Any ideas how to handle?

2019-04-03 21:10:39: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
2019-04-03 21:10:42: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
2019-04-03 21:12:04: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: layplaced2 = 1
2019-04-03 21:12:09: [G_Auto] : k 30.00 Lay bet placed on Rayo Vallecano at 2.02. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 159795048583 ( Opening Stop at 3 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
2019-04-03 21:12:27: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
2019-04-03 21:12:34: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
You can add a 'Keep all unmatched bets' rule and add the same signal conditions the lay bet has (so it triggers at the same time)
I'd then set it to trigger a few times re-arming every 5 secs so it catches the lay shortly after it arrives in the market
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Thanks
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What would cause these bots not to fire? Got this one, adjusted stake size and file name to test, that's the only parameters changed.
Set it on Real Betis game. Worked fine, bet placed, greened up etc.
Moments after Napoli score. Same rule.....no bet placed
PSG score.......no bet 5 mins after goal
Earlier it only fired on one of 4 selections despite goals
Yesterday tested on 4 selections, all fired....
I can't find a reason looking through the rules file
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Smokestak wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:20 pm
What would cause these bots not to fire? Got this one, adjusted stake size and file name to test, that's the only parameters changed.
Set it on Real Betis game. Worked fine, bet placed, greened up etc.
Moments after Napoli score. Same rule.....no bet placed
PSG score.......no bet 5 mins after goal
Earlier it only fired on one of 4 selections despite goals
Yesterday tested on 4 selections, all fired....
I can't find a reason looking through the rules file
Are you refreshing your markets in Guardian fast enough especially if you have dozens loaded in it (even if the rule isn't applied to them all)?
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I have it set to 20ms and there were 4 games in guardian at the time (4x on cs markets, 4x on match odds). Since I wrote that message the PSG Strasbourg match didn't fire at 1-0, then it went 1-1, then 1-2 Strasbourg and fired? Nothing really happened odds wise and it greened for a few pence red.
Only have it set for £1 stakes whilst I test it
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Smokestak wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:48 am
I have it set to 20ms and there were 4 games in guardian at the time (4x on cs markets, 4x on match odds). Since I wrote that message the PSG Strasbourg match didn't fire at 1-0, then it went 1-1, then 1-2 Strasbourg and fired? Nothing really happened odds wise and it greened for a few pence red.
Only have it set for £1 stakes whilst I test it
OK so its not a refresh issue

What type of markets are you using it on?
The odds need to shorted by 25 ticks following a goal, so as it is its best not to use on matches with a very short priced fav or where one team is priced high (unless making some tweeks)

If you try sticking to games where both teams are between 1.60 and 5.0 and see how that goes, and if that works then it was indeed the type of matches your applying it to
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cheers, sounds like it was. the first 4 four matches were all balanced with home and away at 2.00-3.00 and the draw around 3.10.
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Dallas wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:15 am
badboy13 wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:00 pm
I'm finding if the first goal is scored just before half time, the 20 minute green up includes the 15 minute break so no chance of an equaliser as it greens up during half time, any way to fix that?
I have this in my own variation of this file, I've done it by using 2 lay rules and 2 green up rules
Lay A is armed till 30mins and sets signal X
Green A then triggers 20 mins after signal X is set

Lay B is armed 30 mins till 1hr 5mins and sets signal Y
Green Y then triggers 35 mins after signal Y is set

It doesn't give exactly 20mins all the time but you could add further ones depending on how close/precise to 20mins you wanted it

I also have conditions in the green after goal rule so only one or the other can trigger
So you actually have 4 lays and 6 green up rules all together ? 2 for home side and 2 for away side and 3x2 green up rules?
By X you mean number 1 and by Y you mean number 2 ?
"after goal" rule ? Which one is it ?
Can anyone upload the complete bot with all of the remarks taken into account please ?
This is so complicated.
elguiriloco
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Hi Dallas, first of all thanks for your help with the new ones in automation. Is there any chance you could share this modified file to save the timeout error? for which I try I can not find the key.
Thank you in advance.
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