Under 1.5 Goal Trader Guardian Automation Bot

asterix
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Hi Dallas,

I'm fairly new to trading the over and under markets. I've played around with this rule in practice mode to lay U15 if score is 0-0 after 50 mins and odds are less than 2. When a goal is scored to then trade out or if no goal is scored to trade out at a loss.

This is an example from one of the automation logs
9/29/2021 23:00:42: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
9/29/2021 23:00:42: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
9/29/2021 23:00:47: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
9/29/2021 23:52:44: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Under 1.5 Goals: entry = 1.52
9/29/2021 23:52:49: [G_Auto 1] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on Under 1.5 Goals at 1.52. Fully matched at 1.52. Ref: 10007
9/30/2021 00:07:42: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
9/30/2021 00:07:45: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
9/30/2021 00:08:52: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: goal = 1
9/30/2021 00:08:52: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for Under 1.5 Goals: stopbet = 1
9/30/2021 00:08:57: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on Under 1.5 Goals by Backing 5.07 at 3
9/30/2021 00:47:58: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

What I want to try relates to another goal being scored. So not to green up with the same profit on both over or under results when a team scores. I want to trade out with all the profit on the game to finish over 1.5 goals and zero loss if no extra goal is scored. I'm looking for closely matched teams so my assumption (not always true I know) is both teams are likely to push for another goal towards the end of the match.
Perhaps I'm overthinking the wrong approach and should just bet in the over 1.5 market. But are the odds movement and entry exit the same?
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asterix wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:33 pm
Hi Dallas,

I'm fairly new to trading the over and under markets. I've played around with this rule in practice mode to lay U15 if score is 0-0 after 50 mins and odds are less than 2. When a goal is scored to then trade out or if no goal is scored to trade out at a loss.

This is an example from one of the automation logs
9/29/2021 23:00:42: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
9/29/2021 23:00:42: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
9/29/2021 23:00:47: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
9/29/2021 23:52:44: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Under 1.5 Goals: entry = 1.52
9/29/2021 23:52:49: [G_Auto 1] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on Under 1.5 Goals at 1.52. Fully matched at 1.52. Ref: 10007
9/30/2021 00:07:42: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
9/30/2021 00:07:45: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
9/30/2021 00:08:52: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: goal = 1
9/30/2021 00:08:52: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for Under 1.5 Goals: stopbet = 1
9/30/2021 00:08:57: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on Under 1.5 Goals by Backing 5.07 at 3
9/30/2021 00:47:58: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

What I want to try relates to another goal being scored. So not to green up with the same profit on both over or under results when a team scores. I want to trade out with all the profit on the game to finish over 1.5 goals and zero loss if no extra goal is scored. I'm looking for closely matched teams so my assumption (not always true I know) is both teams are likely to push for another goal towards the end of the match.
Perhaps I'm overthinking the wrong approach and should just bet in the over 1.5 market. But are the odds movement and entry exit the same?
If you want all the profits on one team what you'll need is another two rules, both will need to trigger once the green up rule after the first goal has fired

What you'll need is the following changes

On the green up rule go onto the 'Signal' tab and set a signal on the market (give it any name you want)

Then add a 'Set/Modify Stored Value'
applied to Row 2
and on the Stored value tab
Store the value of the selections Profit/loss

On the condition tab add a
Signal changed condition
the signal named (whatever you called it changed between 90-120 secs ago

That will tell the Stored value rule to trigger 90secs after you've greened up

The second rule you'll need is a 'place back bet rule'
applied to row 2
and on the parameters tab for your staking method use
By Liability using Stored Value Stake
and enter the name of your Stored Value for your P/L

that should do it
asterix
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Thank you so much for coming back so quick with the answer. I think I made all the changes you indicated and it seems straightforward enough. Just one question, with the second rule for the back bet, does it automatically trigger once the stored value has been updated in the stored value rule?
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asterix wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:33 pm
Thank you so much for coming back so quick with the answer. I think I made all the changes you indicated and it seems straightforward enough. Just one question, with the second rule for the back bet, does it automatically trigger once the stored value has been updated in the stored value rule?
That was a good spot :)

You'll also need to ensure the back bet rule doesn't trigger until after the Stored Value rule using a signal condition
you could just add the same signal as the stored value rule uses but use a longer time
ie, between 120-180secs ago

Or you can repeat the process detailed in my last reply, and add a new signal to the stored value rule, then on the back bet rule test for this new signal, if you do it this way you could set the time between to something like 1-5secs
asterix
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Thanks Dallas, it did have me puzzling so glad I asked and you came up with the 'fix' :)
garfield2077
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Hi i'm new to automation and have downloaded this file as it is 1 i have been manually trading but want to auto it, i have changed it a little to under 1.4 on the odds market and 10% of balance as i am trying to build an account. Is there anything in this file that makes it needed to be applied to a market at the start of a game or can i apply it say 60mins into the game ? thank you
garfield2077
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Think I got it working by changing the time of the first lay to always armed so if I see anything inplay I can apply this to that game
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garfield2077 wrote:
Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:45 pm
Hi i'm new to automation and have downloaded this file as it is 1 i have been manually trading but want to auto it, i have changed it a little to under 1.4 on the odds market and 10% of balance as i am trying to build an account. Is there anything in this file that makes it needed to be applied to a market at the start of a game or can i apply it say 60mins into the game ? thank you
Rules for football markets that trigger within a time frame (ie, 20mins after KO, or after 70mins) will need to be added to the market before it goes in-play
If its applied to a market after its gone in-play it will take the time you applied it at as the start time
garfield2077
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Hi Dallas

Thanks, that explains why when i was trialling it, it didnt fire as i was about 60mins in and then tried to apply this
POLARbear
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Hi Dallas wonder if you could help me, I would like to set this bot to trade out after one goal is scored in the second-half, how can I do this.
jeremy
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Hello,
Is there a shared bot that lays correct score at half time?
Or places a back bet on the next Over.
I`d want these to trigger regardless of the half time score.
Sorry for posting here but I was thinking that this could be altered to do this?
Thanks in advance,
Jeremy.
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jeremy wrote:
Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:40 pm
Hello,
Is there a shared bot that lays correct score at half time?
Or places a back bet on the next Over.
I`d want these to trigger regardless of the half time score.
Sorry for posting here but I was thinking that this could be altered to do this?
Thanks in advance,
Jeremy.
How to create a rule to trigger bets on the current score
viewtopic.php?f=61&t=22158
jeremy
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Thanks Dallas.
grahamdtg
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Hi Dallas

I started using this automation today for the first time as I love the strategy. I loaded up multiple games and some did not fire at half-time. Plus when there was a goal in one game it did not put the stop loss on at the entry price is case there was no second goal.

Can it onlhy trade one game at a time - be good if you could screen shot every single setting that needs to be in place.

Thank you
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grahamdtg wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:09 pm
Hi Dallas

I started using this automation today for the first time as I love the strategy. I loaded up multiple games and some did not fire at half-time. Plus when there was a goal in one game it did not put the stop loss on at the entry price is case there was no second goal.

Can it onlhy trade one game at a time - be good if you could screen shot every single setting that needs to be in place.

Thank you
It was probably just your Guardian refresh rate set to slow (ie, the 1 second by default) for the number of markets you added
The following post explains how Guardian cycles and refreshes markets and the impact it has on automation rules, plus shows where to change that and other settings so you can optimize it to suit your needs

viewtopic.php?f=37&t=11491
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