Lay if Set and a Break Up Guardian Automation Bot

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Tomm wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:16 pm
Is there way to get this to work for the underdog to a 1.55 favourite as well as matches where there is no clear favourite?
Yes you can just adjust the fixed odds condition of the 'Set/Modify signal' rule or remove it altogether to cover all matches, if removing ensure you also remove the signal condition from the lay rule
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:35 pm
Yes you can just adjust the fixed odds condition of the 'Set/Modify signal' rule or remove it altogether to cover all matches, if removing ensure you also remove the signal condition from the lay rule
Would this not also lay the prematch favourite if they were to go a set and break up as well?
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Tomm wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:38 pm
Dallas wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:35 pm
Yes you can just adjust the fixed odds condition of the 'Set/Modify signal' rule or remove it altogether to cover all matches, if removing ensure you also remove the signal condition from the lay rule
Would this not also lay the prematch favourite if they were to go a set and break up as well?
So you want to lay only if its the prematch 2nd fav that goes a set and break up (as long as the fav was also >1.55 pre match)?
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:46 pm
Tomm wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:38 pm
Dallas wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:35 pm
Yes you can just adjust the fixed odds condition of the 'Set/Modify signal' rule or remove it altogether to cover all matches, if removing ensure you also remove the signal condition from the lay rule
Would this not also lay the prematch favourite if they were to go a set and break up as well?
So you want to lay only if its the prematch 2nd fav that goes a set and break up (as long as the fav was also >1.55 pre match)?
I want to be able to lay both players if neither of them are below 1.55 pre match, but I also want to be able to lay the 2nd fav if the first fav is under 1.55 if that makes sense :lol:
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Tomm wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:06 pm
Dallas wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:46 pm
Tomm wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:38 pm


Would this not also lay the prematch favourite if they were to go a set and break up as well?
So you want to lay only if its the prematch 2nd fav that goes a set and break up (as long as the fav was also >1.55 pre match)?
I want to be able to lay both players if neither of them are below 1.55 pre match, but I also want to be able to lay the 2nd fav if the first fav is under 1.55 if that makes sense :lol:
Yes i see what you mean now, first add another set/modify signal rule (set to trigger once just before match goes in-play)
applied to Betfair order of fav 1

Conditions tab
Fixed odds cond
Selections back price
is less than 1.55

Signal Tab
Signal for current selection
Action - Set Signal
(give it a name and value of your choice)

Then on the existing lay rule add the following;

Conditions Tab
Signal Set Condition
Is the signal named (whatever you called it from above)
for the selection
NOT set with a value

That will do it, basically your setting a signal if fav is <1.55 pre match then telling the lay bet to only trigger on that selection if signal is not set
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Dallas wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:04 am

Yes i see what you mean now, first add another set/modify signal rule (set to trigger once just before match goes in-play)
applied to Betfair order of fav 1

Conditions tab
Fixed odds cond
Selections back price
is less than 1.55

Signal Tab
Signal for current selection
Action - Set Signal
(give it a name and value of your choice)

Then on the existing lay rule add the following;

Conditions Tab
Signal Set Condition
Is the signal named (whatever you called it from above)
for the selection
NOT set with a value

That will do it, basically your setting a signal if fav is <1.55 pre match then telling the lay bet to only trigger on that selection if signal is not set
So this will only lay the 2nd favourite in a match where the favourite is below 1.55? As well as when both players are above 1.55?

Thanks! I'll give it a try
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Tomm wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:07 am
Dallas wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:04 am

Yes i see what you mean now, first add another set/modify signal rule (set to trigger once just before match goes in-play)
applied to Betfair order of fav 1

Conditions tab
Fixed odds cond
Selections back price
is less than 1.55

Signal Tab
Signal for current selection
Action - Set Signal
(give it a name and value of your choice)

Then on the existing lay rule add the following;

Conditions Tab
Signal Set Condition
Is the signal named (whatever you called it from above)
for the selection
NOT set with a value

That will do it, basically your setting a signal if fav is <1.55 pre match then telling the lay bet to only trigger on that selection if signal is not set
So this will only lay the 2nd favourite in a match where the favourite is below 1.55? As well as when both players are above 1.55?

Thanks! I'll give it a try
Yes, it will work as it currently is when fav is > 1.55 at start
if fav is < 1.55 at start and goes set & break up it will ignore them and do nothing
if fav was < 1.55 at start and 2nd fav goes a set & break up it will lay them if they have become fav
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Dallas wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:14 am
Tomm wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:07 am
Dallas wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:04 am

Yes i see what you mean now, first add another set/modify signal rule (set to trigger once just before match goes in-play)
applied to Betfair order of fav 1

Conditions tab
Fixed odds cond
Selections back price
is less than 1.55

Signal Tab
Signal for current selection
Action - Set Signal
(give it a name and value of your choice)

Then on the existing lay rule add the following;

Conditions Tab
Signal Set Condition
Is the signal named (whatever you called it from above)
for the selection
NOT set with a value

That will do it, basically your setting a signal if fav is <1.55 pre match then telling the lay bet to only trigger on that selection if signal is not set
So this will only lay the 2nd favourite in a match where the favourite is below 1.55? As well as when both players are above 1.55?

Thanks! I'll give it a try
Yes, it will work as it currently is when fav is > 1.55 at start
if fav is < 1.55 at start and goes set & break up it will ignore them and do nothing
if fav was < 1.55 at start and 2nd fav goes a set & break up it will lay them if they have become fav
That's great Dallas, thanks a lot!
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I like this strat but is there any way of setting signals based on how the first set went in more detail and not just 1-0 on the set score..

Can I say set signals to say for example so it would fire on a 6-3 but not a 6-0

I also understand this is also looking a little too complicated is there anyway of tracking things like service breaks in that set also.. I am guessing this is perhaps a little too much for automation but you never know..

I guess you become in danger of over complicating the rule but am just exploring options

Thanks in advanced
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Covrich wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:34 am
I like this strat but is there any way of setting signals based on how the first set went in more detail and not just 1-0 on the set score..

Can I say set signals to say for example so it would fire on a 6-3 but not a 6-0

I also understand this is also looking a little too complicated is there anyway of tracking things like service breaks in that set also.. I am guessing this is perhaps a little too much for automation but you never know..

I guess you become in danger of over complicating the rule but am just exploring options

Thanks in advanced
You can set signals easily enough on on any number of scores or if a player wins X games in a row, or wins by X number of games - practically anything you can think of around scoring.
The number of breaks though is not given by the API so there isn't a condition that can test that, you could get very creative with signals and do it but its not something i would recommend for the less experienced
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