Back or Lay Player if 2pts Behind on Serve Guardian Automation Bot

[Jasonffc1]

Hello,

Is there a price limit on each player, so that it doesn’t trigger if one player is 1 set down and a break down. Wouldn’t want to be laying at say 17.0 on nominated player.

Anyway to stop this after 1st set if score wasn’t 7-6, 7-5 or 6-4 either way and then pick it back up if match becomes 1-1 in sets and trigger for final set.

Thanks

[Dallas]

Hello,

Is there a price limit on each player, so that it doesn’t trigger if one player is 1 set down and a break down. Wouldn’t want to be laying at say 17.0 on nominated player.

Anyway to stop this after 1st set if score wasn’t 7-6, 7-5 or 6-4 either way and then pick it back up if match becomes 1-1 in sets and trigger for final set.

Thanks

On your back/lay rule you can just add a 'fixed odds condition' to test the price of a selection
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/fixed_odds.html

The second part you've asked for can also be done and requires the use of Signals.

You'll need a 'Set/Modify Signal' rule applied to ANY selection and on the Signals tab set a signal on the market (call it whatever you want)
Add a 'Tennis Fixed Score Condition'
Selection
Points 0
Games 4
Set ANY

Opponent
Points 0
Games ANY
Set ANY

Then add a 'Tennis Relative Odds Condition'
Selection is 1
game
Behind opponent

Next on your back/lay rule you need a 'Signal Set Condition' to test
the signal on market
named (whatever you called it)
is NOT set with a value

Finally you'll need another 'Set/Modify Signal' rule, on on the signal tab 'Clear Signal'
With a 'Tennis Fixed Score Condition'
Selection
Points 0
Games 0
Set 1

Opponent
Points 0
Games 0
Set 1

That will do it for you

[Jasonffc1]

Thank you so much for the help. Does the part opponent one game behind need to be there? Has 6/4 or 7/5 would be two behind?

Thanks

[Dallas]

Thank you so much for the help. Does the part opponent one game behind need to be there? Has 6/4 or 7/5 would be two behind?

Thanks

Yes, in order to finish 6-4 or 7-5 it would first need to be 5-4
So that condition/signal satisfies your requirement

[Jasonffc1]

I have just realised how stupid that question was haha.

Do you think would be easier to edit your other rule when 0/40 back server, change to 0/15 I would like and just adjust the prices as you have it set to 8.0. This will have taken into account the score in first set, think that makes more sense.

Thanks

[trebor]

Hi
A couple of questions, this automation will place a bet at 0-30, if 2pts later it goes to 15-40 will it place another bet or ignore the second bet?
and second question could this system put you in a position where you are trading right up to match point, hence possible large odds with no trade out to come?
Probably fairly obvious I have never tried automation before

[Dallas]

Hi
A couple of questions, this automation will place a bet at 0-30, if 2pts later it goes to 15-40 will it place another bet or ignore the second bet?
and second question could this system put you in a position where you are trading right up to match point, hence possible large odds with no trade out to come?
Probably fairly obvious I have never tried automation before

It sets a signal when it triggers so it can only trigger once per game, the signal is then cleared by the green up rule at the end of each game ready for the next game.

As it currently is yes it can trigger right upto match point, you can add a further signal rule with a tennis fixed score condition
and set the number of games or sets you want the rule to stop triggering at

ie, set a signal if any player reaches 5 games in a set
then have another set signal rule clear that signal each new set when its 0-0

Then on the back/lay rules add a 'Signal Set condition'
to test the signal named (whatever you called it) is NOT set with a value

[trebor]

Thank you Dallas

[scottgoldblatt]

Hi - Please excuse the two silly questions coming here.

First question, I'd like to modify this to green up if the score is equalised; so, back bet is entered at 0-30 or 15-40 and green up would take place at 30-30 or 40-40. To do this, would I simply add a rule for Greening with 'selection is serving' and 'Relative Score Condition of 0 points behind?' I am sure I tried this but it really struggled to hedge, even in practice mode. Also, wishing to hedge at the end of the game in any scenario, I should also keep the entry for Green Up End of Game below the points equalised rule? Is this creating a dependency where it could hedge twice and reopen a position inadvertently?

Second question, I tried to modify this bot to enable backing of both servers if they are behind by 2 points in their service game; for the use case that we have two strong servers. I originally tried to move the General rules to Any Selection; then selecting both players in Guardian nomination fields. Again, it seemed to really struggle to fire or hedge. Is it better that I modify this current bot file and amend the second set of rules; lay bet and green up to another back bet and green up with the 1 and 2 nominated selections in Guardian (hopefully, with revised relative points condition above).

Thanks,
Scott

[Dallas]

Hi - Please excuse the two silly questions coming here.

First question, I'd like to modify this to green up if the score is equalised; so, back bet is entered at 0-30 or 15-40 and green up would take place at 30-30 or 40-40. To do this, would I simply add a rule for Greening with 'selection is serving' and 'Relative Score Condition of 0 points behind?' I am sure I tried this but it really struggled to hedge, even in practice mode. Also, wishing to hedge at the end of the game in any scenario, I should also keep the entry for Green Up End of Game below the points equalised rule? Is this creating a dependency where it could hedge twice and reopen a position inadvertently?

Second question, I tried to modify this bot to enable backing of both servers if they are behind by 2 points in their service game; for the use case that we have two strong servers. I originally tried to move the General rules to Any Selection; then selecting both players in Guardian nomination fields. Again, it seemed to really struggle to fire or hedge. Is it better that I modify this current bot file and amend the second set of rules; lay bet and green up to another back bet and green up with the 1 and 2 nominated selections in Guardian (hopefully, with revised relative points condition above).

Thanks,
Scott

1, Yes you just need another Green up rule with the two 'Tennis Fixed Score' conditions you want it to trigger at
you'll need to nest these two conditions within a group which specifies 'One or more of the conditions must be true'
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/gro ... tions.html

You can then just leave the existing green up as it is and it will trigger at 0-0 so won't conflict with the new one you add

2, You just need to apply the back bet rule to 'Every' selection
You'll also need a a dedicated 'Clear All signals' rule' applied to 'Every' selection with a 'Tennis Fixed Score' condition is 0-0
So it clears the signals each new game

At the moment the green up rule does it for the nominated selection, so once the rule above is added you can remove what the signal tab on the green up rule currently does - but even if you leave it won't cause any problems or make any difference

[scottgoldblatt]

Hi - Please excuse the two silly questions coming here.

First question, I'd like to modify this to green up if the score is equalised; so, back bet is entered at 0-30 or 15-40 and green up would take place at 30-30 or 40-40. To do this, would I simply add a rule for Greening with 'selection is serving' and 'Relative Score Condition of 0 points behind?' I am sure I tried this but it really struggled to hedge, even in practice mode. Also, wishing to hedge at the end of the game in any scenario, I should also keep the entry for Green Up End of Game below the points equalised rule? Is this creating a dependency where it could hedge twice and reopen a position inadvertently?

Second question, I tried to modify this bot to enable backing of both servers if they are behind by 2 points in their service game; for the use case that we have two strong servers. I originally tried to move the General rules to Any Selection; then selecting both players in Guardian nomination fields. Again, it seemed to really struggle to fire or hedge. Is it better that I modify this current bot file and amend the second set of rules; lay bet and green up to another back bet and green up with the 1 and 2 nominated selections in Guardian (hopefully, with revised relative points condition above).

Thanks,
Scott

1, Yes you just need another Green up rule with the two 'Tennis Fixed Score' conditions you want it to trigger at
you'll need to nest these two conditions within a group which specifies 'One or more of the conditions must be true'
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/gro ... tions.html

You can then just leave the existing green up as it is and it will trigger at 0-0 so won't conflict with the new one you add

2, You just need to apply the back bet rule to 'Every' selection
You'll also need a a dedicated 'Clear All signals' rule' applied to 'Every' selection with a 'Tennis Fixed Score' condition is 0-0
So it clears the signals each new game

At the moment the green up rule does it for the nominated selection, so once the rule above is added you can remove what the signal tab on the green up rule currently does - but even if you leave it won't cause any problems or make any difference

Thank you so much for this. I will see if I can implement at my side.

[Dallas]

Hi - Please excuse the two silly questions coming here.

First question, I'd like to modify this to green up if the score is equalised; so, back bet is entered at 0-30 or 15-40 and green up would take place at 30-30 or 40-40. To do this, would I simply add a rule for Greening with 'selection is serving' and 'Relative Score Condition of 0 points behind?' I am sure I tried this but it really struggled to hedge, even in practice mode. Also, wishing to hedge at the end of the game in any scenario, I should also keep the entry for Green Up End of Game below the points equalised rule? Is this creating a dependency where it could hedge twice and reopen a position inadvertently?

Second question, I tried to modify this bot to enable backing of both servers if they are behind by 2 points in their service game; for the use case that we have two strong servers. I originally tried to move the General rules to Any Selection; then selecting both players in Guardian nomination fields. Again, it seemed to really struggle to fire or hedge. Is it better that I modify this current bot file and amend the second set of rules; lay bet and green up to another back bet and green up with the 1 and 2 nominated selections in Guardian (hopefully, with revised relative points condition above).

Thanks,
Scott

1, Yes you just need another Green up rule with the two 'Tennis Fixed Score' conditions you want it to trigger at
you'll need to nest these two conditions within a group which specifies 'One or more of the conditions must be true'
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/gro ... tions.html

You can then just leave the existing green up as it is and it will trigger at 0-0 so won't conflict with the new one you add

2, You just need to apply the back bet rule to 'Every' selection
You'll also need a a dedicated 'Clear All signals' rule' applied to 'Every' selection with a 'Tennis Fixed Score' condition is 0-0
So it clears the signals each new game

At the moment the green up rule does it for the nominated selection, so once the rule above is added you can remove what the signal tab on the green up rule currently does - but even if you leave it won't cause any problems or make any difference

Thank you so much for this. I will see if I can implement at my side.

If you get stuck just pop another message up with where you're up to

[satoshi-pl]

Hi Dallas,

I’m using a tennis strategy that relies on Guardian Nominated Selection 1 and 2, and I often have over 100 markets loaded at once.

Is there a way to automate the assignment of these nominations across all matches, rather than doing it manually for each one?

Thanks in advance!

[Dallas]

Hi Dallas,

I’m using a tennis strategy that relies on Guardian Nominated Selection 1 and 2, and I often have over 100 markets loaded at once.

Is there a way to automate the assignment of these nominations across all matches, rather than doing it manually for each one?

Thanks in advance!

You are free to apply the rules to any selection/s you want, but depending on how you wish to do this would depend if additional rules or conditions were also required

[satoshi-pl]

I made rules on both selection 1 & selection 2, because I don't know who will serve first.
So let's say the rule on selection 1 should trigger when the score is 0-0 in a set, and selection 1 is serving. Same for selection 2, provided that selection 2 is serving.
So both scenarios should be covered.

It worked most of the times. My idea was that if the first serve got broken, I would back the other player and then green up at some point.
But there were scenarios where is looked like the order maybe has been changed, cause it would trigger when the first serve wasn't broken and was backing the player who won the first serve.
It was quite confusing, as the strategy seems to be written quite soundly, and was working without any fail for a few weeks.

So when I was looking at some ready files, I saw that you did that with Guardian Nominated Selection, and wondered if that is a difference maker. But then when I apply my strategy to all available games, I would need to manually select who is the Nominated Selection 1 & 2. At least I couldn't see a way to do it in a bulk way.