Lay Nominated Player if Break Early Guardian Automation Bot

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PeeBee74 wrote:
Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:39 am
Could it just be a question of liquidity/gappy markets as it's a Challenger?
Its only the top level ATP/WTA tournaments which Betfair provide the live score and server feeds for, lower level events like ITF and Olympic matches don't have this feed so none of the rules which use a score or server condition will be able to trigger
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I later wondered if it might be something like that. Thanks Dallas
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Do you happen to know if the same applies to qualification rounds of WTA/ATP tournaments ie. the automated bets wouldn't trigger in qualifying rounds for the same reasons? Thanks
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PeeBee74 wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:11 pm
Do you happen to know if the same applies to qualification rounds of WTA/ATP tournaments ie. the automated bets wouldn't trigger in qualifying rounds for the same reasons? Thanks
tbh I'm not 100% sure, I'd suspect it may be that some are and some aren't.
A quick way to test them is to add some markets from the tournament you are looking at to a Watchlist, there you can display the scores and if they aren't available you'll just see '0' in all the boxes
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/wat ... cores.html
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Hi - Please excuse the two silly questions coming here.

First question, I'd like to modify this to green up if the score is equalised; so, back bet is entered at 0-30 or 15-40 and green up would take place at 30-30 or 40-40. To do this, would I simply add a rule for Greening with 'selection is serving' and 'Relative Score Condition of 0 points behind?' I am sure I tried this but it really struggled to hedge, even in practice mode. Also, wishing to hedge at the end of the game in any scenario, I should also keep the entry for Green Up End of Game below the points equalised rule? Is this creating a dependency where it could hedge twice and reopen a position inadvertently?

Second question, I tried to modify this bot to enable backing of both servers if they are behind by 2 points in their service game; for the use case that we have two strong servers. I originally tried to move the General rules to Any Selection; then selecting both players in Guardian nomination fields. Again, it seemed to really struggle to fire or hedge. Is it better that I modify this current bot file and amend the second set of rules; lay bet and green up to another back bet and green up with the 1 and 2 nominated selections in Guardian (hopefully, with revised relative points condition above).

Thanks,
Scott
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scottgoldblatt wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:58 pm
Hi - Please excuse the two silly questions coming here.

First question, I'd like to modify this to green up if the score is equalised; so, back bet is entered at 0-30 or 15-40 and green up would take place at 30-30 or 40-40. To do this, would I simply add a rule for Greening with 'selection is serving' and 'Relative Score Condition of 0 points behind?' I am sure I tried this but it really struggled to hedge, even in practice mode. Also, wishing to hedge at the end of the game in any scenario, I should also keep the entry for Green Up End of Game below the points equalised rule? Is this creating a dependency where it could hedge twice and reopen a position inadvertently?

Second question, I tried to modify this bot to enable backing of both servers if they are behind by 2 points in their service game; for the use case that we have two strong servers. I originally tried to move the General rules to Any Selection; then selecting both players in Guardian nomination fields. Again, it seemed to really struggle to fire or hedge. Is it better that I modify this current bot file and amend the second set of rules; lay bet and green up to another back bet and green up with the 1 and 2 nominated selections in Guardian (hopefully, with revised relative points condition above).

Thanks,
Scott
Pretty dumb of me to post this in this file. It was intended for back server if 2 points behind thread. Will post there instead, apologies.
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Hi Dallas, I've been playing around with this. It seems to cancel unmatched bets after ~10s. I can't see how it does this. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks
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Rob51852 wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:59 pm
Hi Dallas, I've been playing around with this. It seems to cancel unmatched bets after ~10s. I can't see how it does this. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks
There is no cancel or fill/kill option used in this file so the bet should stay in the market until matched

Are you running any other automation files or servants on the market at the same time?
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Thanks for the quick response. I thought that was the case but, no, I'm not running any other auto. The only thing I did was change the odds to take the reverse price.
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Rob51852 wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:07 pm
Thanks for the quick response. I thought that was the case but, no, I'm not running any other auto. The only thing I did was change the odds to take the reverse price.
Have you got a copy of the log? that will at least show if it's being killed or cancelled and by what method
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Here it is:

18/07/2023 13:12:59: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
18/07/2023 13:12:59: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18/07/2023 13:13:00: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18/07/2023 13:13:39: [G_Auto 1] : Matched bets checkpoint created at:

Laura Pigossi : 0 back bets, 0 lay bets, £0.00 back stake, £0.00 lay stake.

Miriam Bulgaru : 0 back bets, 0 lay bets, £0.00 back stake, £0.00 lay stake.


18/07/2023 13:13:39: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
18/07/2023 13:22:20: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: placedbet = 1
18/07/2023 13:22:23: [G_Auto 1] : £ 3.23 Lay bet placed on Laura Pigossi at 1.62. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 313951656205
18/07/2023 13:22:32: [G_Auto 1] : Cancelling bets 313951656205
18/07/2023 13:40:43: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: placedbet = 1
18/07/2023 13:40:47: [G_Auto 1] : £ 3.92 Lay bet placed on Laura Pigossi at 1.51. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 313953138006
18/07/2023 13:40:56: [G_Auto 1] : Cancelling bets 313953138006
18/07/2023 13:58:39: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: placedbet = 1
18/07/2023 13:58:42: [G_Auto 1] : £ 4.44 Lay bet placed on Laura Pigossi at 1.45. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 313954595971
18/07/2023 13:58:51: [G_Auto 1] : Cancelling bets 313954595971
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Rob51852 wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:17 pm
Here it is:

18/07/2023 13:12:59: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
18/07/2023 13:12:59: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18/07/2023 13:13:00: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18/07/2023 13:13:39: [G_Auto 1] : Matched bets checkpoint created at:

Laura Pigossi : 0 back bets, 0 lay bets, £0.00 back stake, £0.00 lay stake.

Miriam Bulgaru : 0 back bets, 0 lay bets, £0.00 back stake, £0.00 lay stake.


18/07/2023 13:13:39: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
18/07/2023 13:22:20: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: placedbet = 1
18/07/2023 13:22:23: [G_Auto 1] : £ 3.23 Lay bet placed on Laura Pigossi at 1.62. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 313951656205
18/07/2023 13:22:32: [G_Auto 1] : Cancelling bets 313951656205
18/07/2023 13:40:43: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: placedbet = 1
18/07/2023 13:40:47: [G_Auto 1] : £ 3.92 Lay bet placed on Laura Pigossi at 1.51. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 313953138006
18/07/2023 13:40:56: [G_Auto 1] : Cancelling bets 313953138006
18/07/2023 13:58:39: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: placedbet = 1
18/07/2023 13:58:42: [G_Auto 1] : £ 4.44 Lay bet placed on Laura Pigossi at 1.45. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 313954595971
18/07/2023 13:58:51: [G_Auto 1] : Cancelling bets 313954595971
Thanks
I'll run the file on a few markets now see if I can re create that log and pinpoint whats happening

The only thing I can think at the moment is one of the green up rules triggering
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:35 pm
Rob51852 wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 2:17 pm
Here it is:

18/07/2023 13:12:59: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
18/07/2023 13:12:59: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
18/07/2023 13:13:00: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
18/07/2023 13:13:39: [G_Auto 1] : Matched bets checkpoint created at:

Laura Pigossi : 0 back bets, 0 lay bets, £0.00 back stake, £0.00 lay stake.

Miriam Bulgaru : 0 back bets, 0 lay bets, £0.00 back stake, £0.00 lay stake.


18/07/2023 13:13:39: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
18/07/2023 13:22:20: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: placedbet = 1
18/07/2023 13:22:23: [G_Auto 1] : £ 3.23 Lay bet placed on Laura Pigossi at 1.62. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 313951656205
18/07/2023 13:22:32: [G_Auto 1] : Cancelling bets 313951656205
18/07/2023 13:40:43: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: placedbet = 1
18/07/2023 13:40:47: [G_Auto 1] : £ 3.92 Lay bet placed on Laura Pigossi at 1.51. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 313953138006
18/07/2023 13:40:56: [G_Auto 1] : Cancelling bets 313953138006
18/07/2023 13:58:39: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for market: placedbet = 1
18/07/2023 13:58:42: [G_Auto 1] : £ 4.44 Lay bet placed on Laura Pigossi at 1.45. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 313954595971
18/07/2023 13:58:51: [G_Auto 1] : Cancelling bets 313954595971
Thanks
I'll run the file on a few markets now see if I can re create that log and pinpoint whats happening

The only thing I can think at the moment is one of the green up rules triggering
I've now ran it on several markets using the same 'place at' as you've changed it to and it doesn't matter if the bet is matched immediately or not it never gets cancelled

Have you made any other changes to the file?

If you attach it in a message I'll double check through it but the one I've downloaded from the OP doesn't cancel or kill bets under any circumstances
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