Lay the First to Trade at 2.0 Guardian Automation Bot

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vl62250
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Please, help! I want to make two lay bets on two horses in-play when the price of each of them drops below 1.6. How to make such a rule?
Jasonffc1
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Hello,

I have added this file to my guardian but would like to tweak it a little.

I would like to add tick offset at 2.6 after laying it at 2.06. I have changed the 2.0 to 2.06. Do I have to add a new rule or when on the lay bet do I go to global settings and do it?

I would like to had a stop loss to if the selection goes to 1.5 before going out.

Can someone help please

Thanks
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ScouseBeard
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No need to create a new rule.

Go to your lay bet and go to the parameters tab.

Go down to were it says action, and change that to 'offset bet with stop'. Underneath that change the offest ticks to 27. Then underneath that, change the stop trigger ticks to 53, and the place at ticks to 53.

That should get you out at 2.6 or stop you at 1.5, if your lay bet goes off at 2.06
Jasonffc1
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Thanks for the reply. I thought that was the case and had it set up as that, but nothing triggered last night on the AUS Racing? Not sure why

Thanks
biddynz
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Hi,

I'm trying to lay all runners in play at $2 and then once matched placed a back bet on that runner/runners at a minimum $2 basically as soon as the lay has taken place. Basically not trying to green up just place a win bet on those who shorten and drift again very late in running.
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biddynz wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:37 am
Hi,

I'm trying to lay all runners in play at $2 and then once matched placed a back bet on that runner/runners at a minimum $2 basically as soon as the lay has taken place. Basically not trying to green up just place a win bet on those who shorten and drift again very late in running.
You'll need a 'Place back bet rule'
applied to ANY selection

with the following two conditions
Number of unmatched bets on selection is equal to 0
Number of matched bets on selection is greater than 0
biddynz
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Thanks, will give that a go. The way I had been doing it, it would only back 1 of the lays so see how we go with this.
biddynz
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That seems to just be firing in a back bet on number 1 and not waiting for anything to be layed first
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biddynz wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:28 am
That seems to just be firing in a back bet on number 1 and not waiting for anything to be layed first
Sorry also add a 'Number of place bet triggers condition is equal to 0
biddynz
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On the selection or the market?
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biddynz wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:00 pm
On the selection or the market?
All three conditions need to test the selection
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:37 am
biddynz wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:28 am
That seems to just be firing in a back bet on number 1 and not waiting for anything to be layed first
Sorry also add a 'Number of place bet triggers condition is equal to 0
This stopped any triggering at all so changed it to equal to 1 and it seems to be working perfectly now.

Thank you.
Jasonffc1
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Hello,

Has anyone done any data on this? With so much spare time on my hands thinking of crawling through results to check how results would be in line with what I have tweaked it with.

Cheers
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Wkderridge
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hi guys

trying to automate a lay the field bot, how do i set the bot to fire if the favs price is 3.75 or bigger, is it set a parameter of fixed odds condition that row 1 betfairs back price is greater than 3.7 is this correct

thanks in advance
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Jasonffc1 wrote:
Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:14 am
Hello,

Has anyone done any data on this? With so much spare time on my hands thinking of crawling through results to check how results would be in line with what I have tweaked it with.

Cheers
A blanket approach wont work long term. You need to look into the following:

- Race course. Some courses through up more < 2 losers than others
- Number of runners.
- Favourites price before the start.
- Distance of race.
- Type of race.

From my experience you need ALL of the following:

- Short race 1 mile or less
- Handicap race with no odds on favourite. Ideally all runners above 4.0 odds.
- 12 or more runners.
- Courses with short run in to the finish line off the bend.
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