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cyocyy
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Hello,

I`m bigger then a noobie.
I used dallas file since the start of the post i had a little bit of success with it , the back bets wore working fine and the fav was winning so i decided if the fav is winning i can place lay bets for the rest of the horses after 30 sec from the race started if odds are between 4 - 20 , if in case my favorite will not win at least the other lays will cover some of the lose. Im not sure if this sounds ok. My English is not that good so i rather keep it simple then to make some crazy story that nobody can understand :)

I took dallas file and i added this things i hope some can help me if its ok or not
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peachflame
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Hi,

I'm having trouble getting this to work consistently, the automation always triggers at nominated odds but is only sometimes actually getting the bet matched. I've got market refresh set to 20 mil, and restrict refresh set to 600 seconds before and after market start,
not sure what to look for, any help?
mickypaul72
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You won’t always get matched when the market is flying towards the end of the race.
peachflame
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mickypaul72 wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:10 pm
You won’t always get matched when the market is flying towards the end of the race.
Got this working nicely now, the only unmatched instance was the Stradivarius win yesterday, which i'm guessing happened because he came through so quickly.
I've been surprised by how much extra value there is in this strategy from bets being matched at higher prices than the target.
01wayne
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peachflame wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:09 pm
mickypaul72 wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:10 pm
You won’t always get matched when the market is flying towards the end of the race.
Got this working nicely now, the only unmatched instance was the Stradivarius win yesterday, which i'm guessing happened because he came through so quickly.
I've been surprised by how much extra value there is in this strategy from bets being matched at higher prices than the target.
Do you have an updated file you can share if you made some adjustments to it please?
01wayne
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Dallas wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:48 pm
Here you go, those instructions where given several months ago before the introduction of signals which is now a much better and cleaner way of achieving this so i have modified it slightly and used the signals to set a signal on the market and another on the actual 1st runner below 1.25 - the runners without this signal set which are also trading between 5.0 and 30.0 will then be layed.

I have only tested on 1 race but worked fine, let me know if you have any problems or there is something you dont understand.
I've had a few races where horses who were at 15 have come back to win. Is there anyway of reducing or stopping this as it happened abou 3 times on saturday. I.ll make money on 10 races straight then lose 1 which wipess out all my winnings
reids
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Really liking this! Is there a way of excluding the favourite if it goes off at a certain price?
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reids wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:34 pm
Really liking this! Is there a way of excluding the favourite if it goes off at a certain price?
Yes, you need to add a 'Set/Modify signal rule' applied to the fav (armed around post time)
and on the signal tab set a signal on the selection (give it any name and value)
Then on the conditions tab add a 'Fixed Odds Condition'
Selections back price
is greater than
(whatever odds you want to set)

Next on the existing back bet rule add a 'Signal Set Condition'
to test the signal named (whatever you called it) is NOT set with a value
reids
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Dallas wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:38 pm
reids wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:34 pm
Really liking this! Is there a way of excluding the favourite if it goes off at a certain price?
Yes, you need to add a 'Set/Modify signal rule' applied to the fav (armed around post time)
and on the signal tab set a signal on the selection (give it any name and value)
Then on the conditions tab add a 'Fixed Odds Condition'
Selections back price
is greater than
(whatever odds you want to set)

Next on the existing back bet rule add a 'Signal Set Condition'
to test the signal named (whatever you called it) is NOT set with a value
Perfect, all looks to be working - thanks!
reids
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Dallas wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:38 pm
reids wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:34 pm
Really liking this! Is there a way of excluding the favourite if it goes off at a certain price?
Yes, you need to add a 'Set/Modify signal rule' applied to the fav (armed around post time)
and on the signal tab set a signal on the selection (give it any name and value)
Then on the conditions tab add a 'Fixed Odds Condition'
Selections back price
is greater than
(whatever odds you want to set)

Next on the existing back bet rule add a 'Signal Set Condition'
to test the signal named (whatever you called it) is NOT set with a value
Actually - does this exclude the favourite or just not a place a bet on the race as a whole if the favourite is below the set price?
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reids wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:33 pm
Dallas wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:38 pm
reids wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:34 pm
Really liking this! Is there a way of excluding the favourite if it goes off at a certain price?
Yes, you need to add a 'Set/Modify signal rule' applied to the fav (armed around post time)
and on the signal tab set a signal on the selection (give it any name and value)
Then on the conditions tab add a 'Fixed Odds Condition'
Selections back price
is greater than
(whatever odds you want to set)

Next on the existing back bet rule add a 'Signal Set Condition'
to test the signal named (whatever you called it) is NOT set with a value
Actually - does this exclude the favourite or just not a place a bet on the race as a whole if the favourite is below the set price?
It excludes the pre-off fav
reids
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Dallas wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:04 pm
reids wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:33 pm
Dallas wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:38 pm


Yes, you need to add a 'Set/Modify signal rule' applied to the fav (armed around post time)
and on the signal tab set a signal on the selection (give it any name and value)
Then on the conditions tab add a 'Fixed Odds Condition'
Selections back price
is greater than
(whatever odds you want to set)

Next on the existing back bet rule add a 'Signal Set Condition'
to test the signal named (whatever you called it) is NOT set with a value
Actually - does this exclude the favourite or just not a place a bet on the race as a whole if the favourite is below the set price?
It excludes the pre-off fav
Hmmm, something seems to be off. So using the 14.15 at Southall as an example - Hooper was the favourite and went off around the evens mark - Wargrave was the winner.

The signal didn't fire due to it rightly excluding the favourite, but then it didn't try to place a bet once the conditions had been met. Looking at the log it seems to have then applied the signal 4 mins later to the second favourite but then didn't fire off the bet. However it seems to work fine if the favourite is above the price set with the signal firing at the beginning of the race

13/11/2020 14:15:54: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
13/11/2020 14:15:55: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
13/11/2020 14:15:56: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
13/11/2020 14:19:22: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for Wargrave: SET = 1
13/11/2020 14:20:02: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

I've attached my rules file - does this all look ok?
Last edited by reids on Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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reids wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:38 pm
Dallas wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:04 pm
reids wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:33 pm


Actually - does this exclude the favourite or just not a place a bet on the race as a whole if the favourite is below the set price?
It excludes the pre-off fav
Hmmm, something seems to be off. So using the 14.15 at Southall as an example - Hooper was the favourite and went off around the evens mark - Wargrave was the winner.

The signal didn't fire due to it rightly excluding the favourite, but then it didn't try to place a bet once the conditions had been met. Looking at the log it seems to have then applied the signal 4 mins later to the second favourite but then didn't fire off the bet. However it seems to work fine if the favourite is above the price set with the signal firing at the beginning of the race

13/11/2020 14:15:54: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
13/11/2020 14:15:55: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
13/11/2020 14:15:56: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
13/11/2020 14:19:22: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for Wargrave: SET = 1
13/11/2020 14:20:02: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

I've attached my rules file - does this all look ok?
You've armed the signal rule for 10secs after the race has started
This should be done sometime before they go in-play
reids
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:07 pm
reids wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:38 pm
Dallas wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:04 pm


It excludes the pre-off fav
Hmmm, something seems to be off. So using the 14.15 at Southall as an example - Hooper was the favourite and went off around the evens mark - Wargrave was the winner.

The signal didn't fire due to it rightly excluding the favourite, but then it didn't try to place a bet once the conditions had been met. Looking at the log it seems to have then applied the signal 4 mins later to the second favourite but then didn't fire off the bet. However it seems to work fine if the favourite is above the price set with the signal firing at the beginning of the race

13/11/2020 14:15:54: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
13/11/2020 14:15:55: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
13/11/2020 14:15:56: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
13/11/2020 14:19:22: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for Wargrave: SET = 1
13/11/2020 14:20:02: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

I've attached my rules file - does this all look ok?
You've armed the signal rule for 10secs after the race has started
This should be done sometime before they go in-play
Thanks, now amended, however something still isn't right. For instance at the 12.35 Punchestown - Latest Exhibition went off at 1.78 - no signal was correctly set, however it still placed a bet on it.

15/11/2020 12:36:41: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
15/11/2020 12:36:41: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
15/11/2020 12:36:41: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
15/11/2020 12:41:29: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on Latest Exhibition at 1.26. Fully matched at 1.33. Ref: 216782719674

I've attached the latest version of my rule as I can't see where I'm going wrong!
Last edited by reids on Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Dallas
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reids wrote:
Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:43 pm
Dallas wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:07 pm
reids wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:38 pm


Hmmm, something seems to be off. So using the 14.15 at Southall as an example - Hooper was the favourite and went off around the evens mark - Wargrave was the winner.

The signal didn't fire due to it rightly excluding the favourite, but then it didn't try to place a bet once the conditions had been met. Looking at the log it seems to have then applied the signal 4 mins later to the second favourite but then didn't fire off the bet. However it seems to work fine if the favourite is above the price set with the signal firing at the beginning of the race

13/11/2020 14:15:54: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
13/11/2020 14:15:55: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
13/11/2020 14:15:56: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
13/11/2020 14:19:22: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for Wargrave: SET = 1
13/11/2020 14:20:02: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

I've attached my rules file - does this all look ok?
You've armed the signal rule for 10secs after the race has started
This should be done sometime before they go in-play
Thanks, now amended, however something still isn't right. For instance at the 12.35 Punchestown - Latest Exhibition went off at 1.78 - no signal was correctly set, however it still placed a bet on it.

15/11/2020 12:36:41: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
15/11/2020 12:36:41: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
15/11/2020 12:36:41: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
15/11/2020 12:41:29: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on Latest Exhibition at 1.26. Fully matched at 1.33. Ref: 216782719674

I've attached the latest version of my rule as I can't see where I'm going wrong!
What refresh rate are you using in Guardian ?
If its still at the default setting of 1 second and you had more than 5 markets in guardian at the time then the market hasn't been refreshed to allow the rule to trigger.

This post explains how Guardian cycles and refreshes markets and how you can configure it optimally
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