Create a No Lose Trade on Fav and Profit on the Field Guardian Automation Bot

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hightower09 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:13 am
Hi Dallas

could this automation be used in the place markets aswell?
I don't see why not
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hi dallas is there a way i could get out of the trade for a loss if the favourite didnt get involved and never got near the 15 ticks? also could i set the lay bet not to trigger if the back bet not matched?
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hightower09 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:07 am
hi dallas is there a way i could get out of the trade for a loss if the favourite didnt get involved and never got near the 15 ticks? also could i set the lay bet not to trigger if the back bet not matched?
Yes you could add a close trade rule and green up at a P/L value
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=11407

Or use stored values if you want to test if the price has drifted 'X' number of ticks/percent from the entry price

The lay can be prevented by adding a 'Number of matched bets on selection' is greater than 0
and 'number of unmatched bets on selection' is equal to 0
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Dallas
I have recreated this in Betdaq and it seems to work OK but I have 2 questions:

- BA/Betdaq don't have an SP functionality so I have created the Lay bet before it goes in play (and put a matched bet condition of >0 to make sure the back has been matched). Is that right(about no SP)?
- There is no "keep" functionality - does Betdaq autokeep bets? It seems to but didn't on one occasion (but my clock may have been out)

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Dipstick wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:50 am
Dallas
I have recreated this in Betdaq and it seems to work OK but I have 2 questions:

- BA/Betdaq don't have an SP functionality so I have created the Lay bet before it goes in play (and put a matched bet condition of >0 to make sure the back has been matched). Is that right(about no SP)?
- There is no "keep" functionality - does Betdaq autokeep bets? It seems to but didn't on one occasion (but my clock may have been out)

Regards

D
Both keep bets and Take SP (XSP) are available in Betdaq, but they are in the main options area
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=15985
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thanks as always Dallas - i already had the "keep" functionality on and so that explains it (I have re-set my clock which was about 15 seconds behind as well).

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Hi Dallas,
This was working fine ,followed instructions about greening up for a profit or loss, but this is what happened
After it greened up for a loss of £3 it was layed again below is the log

09/01/2020 18:43:34: Market changed to ChelmC 9th Jan - 19:00 1m2f Nov Stks
09/01/2020 19:00:00: [G_Auto] : £ 26.60 Back bet placed on Bright Melody at 2.88. Fully matched at 2.88. Ref: 10112
09/01/2020 19:02:33: Market has been suspended
09/01/2020 19:02:35: Market is in-play
09/01/2020 19:02:36: Market has been unsuspended
09/01/2020 19:02:38: [G_Auto] : Greened up Bright Melody by Laying 23.57 at 3.25

surely this is where the bot should have stopped
but
09/01/2020 19:02:41: [G_Auto] : £ 30.49 Lay bet placed on Bright Melody at 2.64. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10114
09/01/2020 19:04:17: [G_Auto] : Greened up Bright Melody by Backing 21.18 at 3.8
09/01/2020 19:04:40: Market has been suspended
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durango wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:16 pm
Hi Dallas,
This was working fine ,followed instructions about greening up for a profit or loss, but this is what happened
After it greened up for a loss of £3 it was layed again below is the log

09/01/2020 18:43:34: Market changed to ChelmC 9th Jan - 19:00 1m2f Nov Stks
09/01/2020 19:00:00: [G_Auto] : £ 26.60 Back bet placed on Bright Melody at 2.88. Fully matched at 2.88. Ref: 10112
09/01/2020 19:02:33: Market has been suspended
09/01/2020 19:02:35: Market is in-play
09/01/2020 19:02:36: Market has been unsuspended
09/01/2020 19:02:38: [G_Auto] : Greened up Bright Melody by Laying 23.57 at 3.25

surely this is where the bot should have stopped
but
09/01/2020 19:02:41: [G_Auto] : £ 30.49 Lay bet placed on Bright Melody at 2.64. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10114
09/01/2020 19:04:17: [G_Auto] : Greened up Bright Melody by Backing 21.18 at 3.8
09/01/2020 19:04:40: Market has been suspended
This rule file triggers a lay bet 5 secs after going in-play and its that which needs to be matched to create a no lose trade

If you add a green-up rule to prevent a full loss it will need to trigger sometime after the lay bet or arm the lay bet to fire earlier, otherwise, you'll need to add a condition to the lay bet so it doesn't trigger if the green-up rule has fired
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Thanks very much Dallas

'you'll need to add a condition to the lay bet so it doesn't trigger if the green-up rule has fired'

Could you tell me how to do this ?
thanks
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durango wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 7:29 pm
Thanks very much Dallas

'you'll need to add a condition to the lay bet so it doesn't trigger if the green-up rule has fired'

Could you tell me how to do this ?
thanks
On your green up rule go onto the 'Signal' tab and set a signal on the selection (give it any name you want)
Then on your lay rule add a 'Signal Set' condition
Is the signal named (whatever you called it above)
NOT set with a value

and that will stop it triggering if the green up rule has fired
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On your green up rule go onto the 'Signal' tab and set a signal on the selection (give it any name you want)
Then on your lay rule add a 'Signal Set' condition
Is the signal named (whatever you called it above)
NOT set with a value

and that will stop it triggering if the green up rule has fired

thanks
do I set a signal in both hedge profit[offset] and hedge loss [stop loss] and if so do I keep value as 1
also is it just for 'signal for current selection' and not for' signal for market'
And
is the lay rule 'lay fav[in-play] ? and if so should value be 0
thanks
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durango wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:09 pm
On your green up rule go onto the 'Signal' tab and set a signal on the selection (give it any name you want)
Then on your lay rule add a 'Signal Set' condition
Is the signal named (whatever you called it above)
NOT set with a value

and that will stop it triggering if the green up rule has fired

thanks
do I set a signal in both hedge profit[offset] and hedge loss [stop loss] and if so do I keep value as 1
also is it just for 'signal for current selection' and not for' signal for market'
And
is the lay rule 'lay fav[in-play] ? and if so should value be 0
thanks
Use the same signal name and value on both green-up rules (doesn't matter what value you give it)

Best to set it on the market, then make sure the lay rule signal condition looks for the signal on the market also
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Brilliant thanks Dallas
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Hi Dallas
in 1.10 ling backed fav greened up for a loss then made a further back bet ..I think I followed your instructions ..but must be something wrong ?
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sorted now ..thanks
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