Back or Lay at a Percentage of BSP Guardian Automation Bot

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Dallas
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JamesMu wrote:
Tue Aug 10, 2021 3:52 pm
Hi, I'm very new to this and have a few stupid questions. I'm wanting to lay ANY horse that goes 50 percent of the BSP in the first furlong or so of a race. is it possible to do this?
You can do that with file, there's no way to tell where a horse is on the course, but it takes approx 10-15secs to run the 1st furlong depending on the race length so you could just arm your rule till around 00:00:13 after going in-play
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thank you for the reply, is there a simple 'Lay at 40 percent less in the first 15 seconds of a race' set up anywhere? I am very new to this and struggling to get my head around everything at the moment. If it would be possible to send me it if so id really appreciate that.
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Hi Dallas, can you please check that this file is as you described, I dont think it has the same parameters? And I am not good enough to change them yet. Thanks
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DalS wrote:
Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:24 am
Hi Dallas, can you please check that this file is as you described, I dont think it has the same parameters? And I am not good enough to change them yet. Thanks
The parameters are correct as per opening post;

Back Rule places at - Custom % below actual SP 50%
Lay Rule places at - Custom % above actual SP 100%
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Thanks for checking, I can see where I got confused.
Can you tell me, if I were to lay at % of sp on a selection, but no greater than say 15 sp, what I would need to add/change.
Thanks
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DalS wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:43 am
Thanks for checking, I can see where I got confused.
Can you tell me, if I were to lay at % of sp on a selection, but no greater than say 15 sp, what I would need to add/change.
Thanks
You'll just need a 'Fixed Odds Condition' to test the lay price is less than 15 (or whatever you it it to be)
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Dallas wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:24 am
teambulldog wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:40 am
Hi Dallas,
Could you help please ?Am liking this a lot for laying but is there a way to get more LAY bets MATCHED as a lot of times the price moves out quick and leaves with unmatched bets ???
Would fixed stake help as i am still laying to liability, AM on vps and running at 20ms
hope you have some ideas please?
thanks
Julian
On the Parameters tab you can change where the bet is placed at, so you can place the bet outside the price, ie instead of placing at 100% place at 110%, that will increase the chances of it being matched
Hi Dallas
I've just found this automation rule and I'm having the same problem as teambulldog, lots of lay bets not getting matched.
How do you do what you said on the parameters tab? Can't work out what to do.
Do you mean that the percentage needs to be changed from 100% to 110% when the stored value is being set up?
Thanks
durango
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Hi Dallas,
How do i stop this from happening ?


26/11/2021 18:34:41: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
26/11/2021 18:34:42: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
26/11/2021 18:34:43: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Brostaigh: SPdrift = 1.334 + 55% = 2.067
26/11/2021 18:34:43: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
26/11/2021 18:35:42: [G_Auto 1] : £ 7.50 Lay bet placed on Brostaigh at 9. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10027 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. )
26/11/2021 18:35:45: [G_Auto 1] : £ 7.5 of unmatched bet (Ref:10027) was filled before remainder was killed.
26/11/2021 18:35:54: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

of course it went on to win and turned into a large loss ...in paper mode luckily
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durango wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:48 pm
Hi Dallas,
How do i stop this from happening ?


26/11/2021 18:34:41: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
26/11/2021 18:34:42: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
26/11/2021 18:34:43: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Brostaigh: SPdrift = 1.334 + 55% = 2.067
26/11/2021 18:34:43: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
26/11/2021 18:35:42: [G_Auto 1] : £ 7.50 Lay bet placed on Brostaigh at 9. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10027 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. )
26/11/2021 18:35:45: [G_Auto 1] : £ 7.5 of unmatched bet (Ref:10027) was filled before remainder was killed.
26/11/2021 18:35:54: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

of course it went on to win and turned into a large loss ...in paper mode luckily
Do you mean hoe can you exit the trade if it begins to go against you?
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The lay bet should kick in at 2.067, I believe, but it actually layed at a far bigger price ..is there a way of stopping the lay from laying at a far bigger price ..in this case it was layed at 9. which was way larger ?
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durango wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:31 pm
The lay bet should kick in at 2.067, I believe, but it actually layed at a far bigger price ..is there a way of stopping the lay from laying at a far bigger price ..in this case it was layed at 9. which was way larger ?
The lay rule will trigger as soon as the LTP is greater than the stored value (the back bet rule when the LTP is less than the stored value)
if you want to put a limit on one or both you'd need to add another condition

The simplest would be a fixed odds condition if you just wanted to enter a fixed price for every race

If you wanted to do it relative to the SP each race then you'd need to add another stored value
ie, on the 'Store Lay BSP' rule add another stored value to store the BSP plus 125% and name it 'laybspmax' (orwhatever you want)

Then add another condition to your lay bet rule to test the LTP is less than stored value named 'laybspmax'
durango
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Many thanks Dallas

so
Do I make a new rule for the fixed odds condition or in
store sp
or lay fav
jamesworth
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Hello, I am very new to BA. I like this Automation file.
However I have a question. How do I add a condition to the 'Lay of a percentage rule' that will only apply to horses that have a SP back price of between 1.01 and 5.
I currently have applies to selection 'any selection' which is not right
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jamesworth wrote:
Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:46 pm
Hello, I am very new to BA. I like this Automation file.
However I have a question. How do I add a condition to the 'Lay of a percentage rule' that will only apply to horses that have a SP back price of between 1.01 and 5.
I currently have applies to selection 'any selection' which is not right
The rules need to be applied to 'Every' selection,
On the back/lay rule you'll then just need a 'Fixed Odds Condition' to test a selection Actual SP is <5.0
davefleming2000
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Hi Dallas,
I've changed this to suit my strategy by laying the fav. I have added a condition in the first rule "store lay BSP" for the fixed odds to below 4.1 . But it is still setting the store value on odds above 4.1. What am I doing wrong?
Regards
Dave
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