DOB with Moving Exit Guardian Automation Bot

[Dallas]

thanks ..here it is
Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:28 pm

ANGELS15 wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:13 pm
teddydog77 wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:26 pm
Hello Dallas, I have been using this bot and on a couple of occasions my selected horse has won the race but I have been left with a losing bet. Had a look at the log and it seems to put a back bet in near end of race. Could you advise me please, I’m new to this.
Thank you
I had a similar issue back in August (see earlier threads in this topic) where my horse was running really well and actually looked as if it had won but actually lost out in the photo. The automation closed me out quite early in the race at high odds despite the price coming in all the time (horse was making the running travelling strongly).

Don't get me wrong I think this is genius automation but does appear to have one or two quirks which need ironing out.
If you find this happens you could add another condition to the green up rule to tell it not to trigger if the lay price jumps to high (ie, you'll potentially accept a full if it never comes back in)

For example assume the current price is 1.60 and the SV exit price is 1.70
If the price jumps out to 22.0 even for a nano second that will trigger the green up rule

With the extra condition you could say if it's with 100 ticks of the SV exit price, in the example here that would mean the green up rule would trigger if the lay price went out to 1.70 - 4.0 (anything over 4.0 and it wouldn't trigger, if it comes back in great, if it comes back between those odds the green up will trigger if it never comes back down you take the full loss

Another option is you could just add a 'Fixed Odds' condition to test the price is less than 'X' and that will give a similar effect

Thanks for clarifying that, please see below for the screenshot of a new stored value and condition you need to add, that effectively creates a range of 10-100 ticks the price can jump back out, if it goes more than 100 then the green up rule won't trigger

SV.JPG

Cond.JPG

[durango]

Brilliant Many thanks Dallas ..
presumably in the first screen shot the new stored value is added to rather than replace the other stored value ?

[Dallas]

Brilliant Many thanks Dallas ..
presumably in the first screen shot the new stored value is added to rather than replace the other stored value ?

Yes, first is a added SV (not replaced)
second is a added condition (also not replaced)

[durango]

Thanks Dallas

[JimmyH]

Hi all,

I am testing this bot in Prac mode and no bets are firing at all.

Got my refresh rate at 300ms.

Moved out the time for the bet to fire at 30 secs before start time, at a loss as to what I am dong wrong.

HELP!!!

[Dallas]

Hi all,

I am testing this bot in Prac mode and no bets are firing at all.

Got my refresh rate at 300ms.

Moved out the time for the bet to fire at 30 secs before start time, at a loss as to what I am dong wrong.

HELP!!!

Have you selected your nominated runners on the main Guardian page you want it to trigger on?

[JimmyH]

Hi all,

I am testing this bot in Prac mode and no bets are firing at all.

Got my refresh rate at 300ms.

Moved out the time for the bet to fire at 30 secs before start time, at a loss as to what I am dong wrong.

HELP!!!

Have you selected your nominated runners on the main Guardian page you want it to trigger on?

In a word no!!!


So I pop in my automation rule on the race I want and then "automation nominated selection" enter.

Will test now, but pretty certain that'll be it!

Cheers Dallas.

Bingo!!

Thanks loads.

[Dallas]

Hi all,

I am testing this bot in Prac mode and no bets are firing at all.

Got my refresh rate at 300ms.

Moved out the time for the bet to fire at 30 secs before start time, at a loss as to what I am dong wrong.

HELP!!!

Have you selected your nominated runners on the main Guardian page you want it to trigger on?

In a word no!!!


So I pop in my automation rule on the race I want and then "automation nominated selection" enter.

Will test now, but pretty certain that'll be it!

Cheers Dallas

Yep, you basically pick the runner you want it to trigger on each race in the 'Automation Nominated Selection 1' column
You could edit the file so you can pick up to 5 runners in that way each market
Or if you don't want to nominate a runner you can edit it so it triggers on the fav, 2nd fav or runners priced between 'X' odds etc

[Trader Chris]

Hi Dallas

Quick question - I had a race earlier where the greening placed an additional back bet - I can't figure out why this is. I'm running a more manual DOB in the same automation (basically just finds 'exit' and places the same stake as used for original back so that half is DOB'd manually on the way down the ladder (if that makes sense)??

Can't see why this would interfere with the greening though??

Log below:

24/02/2021 16:42:50: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: exit = 14 - 50% = 7
24/02/2021 16:42:50: [G_Auto 1] : £ 4.00 Back bet placed on Ey Up Rocky at 13.5. Fully matched at 14. Ref: 225308135624
24/02/2021 16:43:30: [G_Auto 1] : £ 4.00 Lay bet placed on Ey Up Rocky at 7. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 225308227623
24/02/2021 16:43:40: [G_Auto 1] : Modify bet persistence 225308227623 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'


24/02/2021 16:45:15: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/02/2021 16:45:16: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/02/2021 16:45:17: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/02/2021 16:48:32: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 6.8 + 10 ticks = 8.8
24/02/2021 16:48:47: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 6.2 + 10 ticks = 8.2
24/02/2021 16:48:47: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 6.2 + 100 ticks = 410
24/02/2021 16:48:49: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 5 + 10 ticks = 6
24/02/2021 16:48:49: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 5 + 100 ticks = 300
24/02/2021 16:48:50: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on Ey Up Rocky by Laying 3.26 at 8.6
24/02/2021 16:48:51: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on Ey Up Rocky by Laying 4.12 at 6.8
24/02/2021 16:48:54: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 3.55 + 10 ticks = 4.1
24/02/2021 16:48:54: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 3.55 + 100 ticks = 110
24/02/2021 16:48:55: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 3.1 + 10 ticks = 3.6
24/02/2021 16:48:55: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 3.1 + 100 ticks = 60
24/02/2021 16:48:56: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 2.84 + 10 ticks = 3.1
24/02/2021 16:48:56: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 2.84 + 100 ticks = 34
24/02/2021 16:48:57: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 2.48 + 10 ticks = 2.68
24/02/2021 16:48:57: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 2.48 + 100 ticks = 17
24/02/2021 16:48:59: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 2.42 + 10 ticks = 2.62
24/02/2021 16:48:59: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 2.42 + 100 ticks = 15.5
24/02/2021 16:49:00: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 2.24 + 10 ticks = 2.44
24/02/2021 16:49:00: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 2.24 + 100 ticks = 11
24/02/2021 16:49:01: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on Ey Up Rocky by Backing 5.60 at 2.26
24/02/2021 16:49:04: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on Ey Up Rocky by Laying 0.56 at 2.62
24/02/2021 16:49:04: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 1.9 + 10 ticks = 2
24/02/2021 16:49:04: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 1.9 + 100 ticks = 6
24/02/2021 16:49:05: [G_Auto 1] : Placed closure bet with greening on Ey Up Rocky by Laying 0.56 at 2.64
24/02/2021 16:49:06: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 1.85 + 10 ticks = 1.95
24/02/2021 16:49:06: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 1.85 + 100 ticks = 5.5
24/02/2021 16:49:17: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
24/02/2021 16:49:17: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 0 + 100 ticks = 2.02
24/02/2021 16:49:19: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
24/02/2021 16:49:19: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 0 + 100 ticks = 2.02
24/02/2021 16:49:20: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
24/02/2021 16:49:20: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 0 + 100 ticks = 2.02
24/02/2021 16:49:21: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
24/02/2021 16:49:21: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 0 + 100 ticks = 2.02
24/02/2021 16:49:23: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit = 0 + 10 ticks = 1.11
24/02/2021 16:49:23: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value for Ey Up Rocky: new exit2 = 0 + 100 ticks = 2.02
24/02/2021 16:49:23: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

Any help much appreciated thanks

[Dallas]

Hi Dallas

Quick question - I had a race earlier where the greening placed an additional back bet - I can't figure out why this is. I'm running a more manual DOB in the same automation (basically just finds 'exit' and places the same stake as used for original back so that half is DOB'd manually on the way down the ladder (if that makes sense)??

Can't see why this would interfere with the greening though??


Any help much appreciated thanks

Have you changed the greening rule in any way?
I'd need to double check but as a rule I'd normally set it to trigger 3 times 3 secs apart which doesn't appear the case in the log

[Trader Chris]

Hi Dallas - thanks for the reply. I changed it to up to 5 times 1 second delay (was trying to control situations where the odds jump back out really quickly)? Thinking about it 1 second is probably too quick as would need to wait until previous greening attempt had been matched??

Thanks

[Dallas]

Hi Dallas - thanks for the reply. I changed it to up to 5 times 1 second delay (was trying to control situations where the odds jump back out really quickly)? Thinking about it 1 second is probably too quick as would need to wait until previous greening attempt had been matched??

Thanks

That would be it.

If the stakes been used (sometimes for a 2nd or 3rd green up to try and get everything equal) are less than the Betfair £2 minimum then the in-play delay is twice as long (2 seconds)

So using 3 seconds as a re arm is a safe way of ensuring you don't submit double bets on racing markets in-running even as the stake gets smaller

[Trader Chris]

Brilliant thanks - will put it back to 3 secs

[JimmyH]

Have you selected your nominated runners on the main Guardian page you want it to trigger on?

In a word no!!!


So I pop in my automation rule on the race I want and then "automation nominated selection" enter.

Will test now, but pretty certain that'll be it!

Cheers Dallas

Yep, you basically pick the runner you want it to trigger on each race in the 'Automation Nominated Selection 1' column
You could edit the file so you can pick up to 5 runners in that way each market
Or if you don't want to nominate a runner you can edit it so it triggers on the fav, 2nd fav or runners priced between 'X' odds etc

Thank you dallas

[pieaddict]

Hi,

this is a great automation and suits how i select horses perfectly.

Quick question, if i change the percent from 50 to 75, would that mean it greens up at <75% of back price, or <25% (i.e -75% off the back price).

I have over thought this and now my brain can't resolve it