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nick11
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I have selected the free bet on the fav guardian automation and just changed the price to trigger the bet at back price of 2.30 and also selected al horse racing and greyhound today.

Does this bot work on greyhounds too?

thanks
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nick11 wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:47 pm
I have selected the free bet on the fav guardian automation and just changed the price to trigger the bet at back price of 2.30 and also selected al horse racing and greyhound today.

Does this bot work on greyhounds too?

thanks
Their is no in-play betting on greyhounds so you would need to ensure both bets are matched before the off
nick11
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Thanks

"Their is no in-play betting on greyhounds so you would need to ensure both bets are matched before the off"

How?
nick11
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I changed settings to place bet at fixed price 2.1 but bot placed bet at 5.1

what have i done wrong?

25/02/2017 13:08:52: Market changed to Kemp 25th Feb - 13:15 2m5f Hcap Hrd
25/02/2017 13:14:53: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on River Frost at 2.1. Fully matched at 6.4. Ref: 86349449439 ( Offsetting by 10 ticks. )
25/02/2017 13:14:53: [G_Auto] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on River Frost at 5.2. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 86349450230
25/02/2017 13:14:57: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 86349450230 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'
thanks
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It placed the bet at 2.1 but Betfair always match at the best possible price when the order reaches the market so in this case you got odds of 5.2

If you want the bet to ONLY if its odds are at or around 2.1 then you need to add the following condition
'Fixed Odds Condition'
Selections 'Last Traded Price'
Is 'Less' Than 2.12
nick11
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Thanks all done and winning. :D
nick11
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Bets not matched so i cancelled . several thousand on each side when i looked so took time too mutch tim eto get my bets matched i guess as thousands of pounds in front of me waiting to get matched?

25/02/2017 15:15:00: Market changed to Newc 25th Feb - 15:20 2m Nov Chs
25/02/2017 15:19:53: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Back bet placed on The Dutchman at 2.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 86370155720 ( Offsetting by 20 ticks. )
25/02/2017 15:19:53: [G_Auto] : £ 4.00 Lay bet placed on The Dutchman at 1.85. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 86370156360
25/02/2017 15:19:57: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 86370155720 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'
25/02/2017 15:19:57: [G_Auto] : Modify bet persistence 86370156360 from 'Cancel' to 'Keep'

25/02/2017 15:20:11: Cancelling bets 86370155720
25/02/2017 15:20:12: Cancelling bets 86370156360
25/02/2017 15:22:27: Market has been suspended
25/02/2017 15:22:28: Market is in-play
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nick11 wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:24 pm
Bets not matched so i cancelled . several thousand on each side when i looked so took time too mutch tim eto get my bets matched i guess as thousands of pounds in front of me waiting to get matched?
If you have the ladder screen open you can see exactly where your bets are and if more money jumps in front, you could then drag your bet down to a lower price to get it matched if you want
nick11
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had £20 bet on fav using guardina and the bet did not get matched so lost £20.

is there anything i can do to reduce the risk?

such as better quality racing, or £250,000+ liquid market

thanks
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Time out message - first time had this, what causd it me clicking too fast on modifying price?

prices froze and could not get any updates of prices

04/03/2017 14:51:46: £ 10.00 Back bet placed on Happy Diva at 2.72. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 86906942976
04/03/2017 14:51:46: £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on Happy Diva at 2.7. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 86906942981
04/03/2017 14:53:16: Modify bet 86906942976 from 10 @ 2.72 to 10 @ 2.7 New Ref: 86907172972
04/03/2017 14:53:17: Modify bet 86907172972 from 10 @ 2.7 to 10 @ 2.68 New Ref: 86907176677
04/03/2017 14:54:04: Modify bet 86907176677 from 10 @ 2.68 to 10 @ 2.66 New Ref: 86907305316
04/03/2017 14:54:08: Modify bet 86907305316 from 10 @ 2.66 to 10 @ 2.64 New Ref: 86907311400
04/03/2017 14:55:22: Modify bet 86907311400 from 10 @ 2.64 to 10 @ 2.62 New Ref: 86907531565
04/03/2017 14:55:28: Modify bet 86907531565 from 10 @ 2.62 to 10 @ 2.6 New Ref: 86907548882
04/03/2017 14:55:48: Modify bet 86907548882 from 10 @ 2.6 to 10 @ 2.58 New Ref: 86907609644
04/03/2017 14:55:50: Modify bet 86907609644 from 10 @ 2.58 to 10 @ 2.56 New Ref: 86907618171
04/03/2017 14:55:57: Modify bet 86907618171 from 10 @ 2.56 to 10 @ 2.54 New Ref: 86907635871
04/03/2017 14:56:36: Warning: Timeout occurred while modifying price: NULL
04/03/2017 14:56:36: Modify bet 86907635871 from 10 @ 2.54 to 10 @ 2.52 Error changing price ( NULL ).
04/03/2017 14:56:38: Warning: Timeout occurred while modifying price: NULL
04/03/2017 14:56:38: Modify bet 86907635871 from 10 @ 2.54 to 10 @ 2.52 Error changing price ( NULL ).
04/03/2017 14:56:40: Warning: Timeout occurred while modifying price: NULL
04/03/2017 14:56:40: Modify bet 86907635871 from 10 @ 2.54 to 10 @ 2.52 Error changing price ( NULL ).
04/03/2017 14:56:40: Warning: Timeout occurred while modifying price: NULL
04/03/2017 14:56:40: Modify bet 86907635871 from 10 @ 2.54 to 10 @ 2.52 Error changing price ( NULL ).
04/03/2017 14:56:41: Warning: Timeout occurred while modifying price: NULL
04/03/2017 14:56:41: Modify bet 86907635871 from 10 @ 2.54 to 10 @ 2.52 Error changing price ( NULL ).
04/03/2017 14:56:51: An error occurred while Greening Up Happy Diva by Backing 11.73 at 2.3 [2.3_11.73]: NULL
04/03/2017 15:00:01: [G_Auto] : Unable to place back bet on Happy Diva at 2. NULL
westoncott
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Hi there. Quick question for Dallas. If I add a fill or kill option to this bot to clear the bet if the odds don't shorten enough to get the lay taken, am I right in thinking that I would have to give it a delay of somewhere around 240 to allow time for the race to start and the odds to develop in-running? Thanks.
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westoncott wrote:
Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:33 am
Hi there. Quick question for Dallas. If I add a fill or kill option to this bot to clear the bet if the odds don't shorten enough to get the lay taken, am I right in thinking that I would have to give it a delay of somewhere around 240 to allow time for the race to start and the odds to develop in-running? Thanks.
The fill/kill only applies to the opening part of the bet not the offset, once the offset lay is placed if you wanted to cancel after a specific time if still unmatched you would need to add a 'green up' rule or similar to do it.
westoncott
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Thanks Dallas. Understand more now.
westoncott
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Hi All, I now understand a lot more about how the automation rules work but I'm a bit confused about the LOG file. I ran the Free Bet on Favourite rule on three races this afternoon and they all worked fine. Looking in Betfair Profit and Loss Record I can see that I have either won or lost nothing. Just as it should be. But if I look at the automation Log file I can see that it places the initial back bet, and that it gets taken. However the lay bet is logged as having been put into the market and been totally unmatched, There are no further log entries about this lay bet having been matched later - but it must have been, Why does the log file not show this? Any ideas?
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westoncott wrote:
Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:19 pm
There are no further log entries about this lay bet having been matched later - but it must have been, Why does the log file not show this? Any ideas?
The log only records bets as they reach the market, if they are not matched until a later time this wont be shown in the log and you need to refer to your matched bets history for this
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