Back the Steamer Guardian Automation Bot for Horse Racing

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waywyrd
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Hi,

How do I set this bot up to back the most backed horse at a set time before the race, say 1-2 hours, where the last price is say 15.0.

Then cash out across all runners, after a sudden price drop or a predetermined time before the race starts.

Also add a profit and loss green-up/cash out rule to take a certain profit or minimise potential losses.

Regards,

Waywyrd.
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Dallas
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waywyrd wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:44 am
Hi,

How do I set this bot up to back the most backed horse at a set time before the race, say 1-2 hours, where the last price is say 15.0.

Then cash out across all runners, after a sudden price drop or a predetermined time before the race starts.

Also add a profit and loss green-up/cash out rule to take a certain profit or minimise potential losses.

Regards,

Waywyrd.

How are you defining the most backed horse?

By number of ticks moved, the IP% move, amount traded on it etc?

If only trading the one runner the other two (cash outs) are done using ' Close Trade on Selection Greening' rules, you'll need an 'Historical relative odds condition' to test a price move within a time frame
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/his ... _odds.html

The other would use a 'Trade Profit Condition'
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/clo ... rofit.html
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waywyrd
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Dallas wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:04 am
waywyrd wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:44 am
Hi,

How do I set this bot up to back the most backed horse at a set time before the race, say 1-2 hours, where the last price is say 15.0.

Then cash out across all runners, after a sudden price drop or a predetermined time before the race starts.

Also add a profit and loss green-up/cash out rule to take a certain profit or minimise potential losses.

Regards,

Waywyrd.

How are you defining the most backed horse?

By number of ticks moved, the IP% move, amount traded on it etc?

If only trading the one runner the other two (cash outs) are done using ' Close Trade on Selection Greening' rules, you'll need an 'Historical relative odds condition' to test a price move within a time frame
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/his ... _odds.html

The other would use a 'Trade Profit Condition'
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/clo ... rofit.html
Hi,

I would be defining the most backed horse as the favourite at the time of first monitoring.

Regards,

Waywyrd.
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Dallas
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waywyrd wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:16 pm
Dallas wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:04 am
waywyrd wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:44 am
Hi,

How do I set this bot up to back the most backed horse at a set time before the race, say 1-2 hours, where the last price is say 15.0.

Then cash out across all runners, after a sudden price drop or a predetermined time before the race starts.

Also add a profit and loss green-up/cash out rule to take a certain profit or minimise potential losses.

Regards,

Waywyrd.

How are you defining the most backed horse?

By number of ticks moved, the IP% move, amount traded on it etc?

If only trading the one runner the other two (cash outs) are done using ' Close Trade on Selection Greening' rules, you'll need an 'Historical relative odds condition' to test a price move within a time frame
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/his ... _odds.html

The other would use a 'Trade Profit Condition'
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/clo ... rofit.html
Hi,

I would be defining the most backed horse as the favourite at the time of first monitoring.

Regards,

Waywyrd.
You said earlier 'Where the last price was 15.0'

There'd only be a very small number of races were the fav would be 15.0
Unless i've mis-understood something?
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waywyrd
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Dallas wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:04 pm
waywyrd wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:16 pm
Dallas wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:04 am



How are you defining the most backed horse?

By number of ticks moved, the IP% move, amount traded on it etc?

If only trading the one runner the other two (cash outs) are done using ' Close Trade on Selection Greening' rules, you'll need an 'Historical relative odds condition' to test a price move within a time frame
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/his ... _odds.html

The other would use a 'Trade Profit Condition'
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/clo ... rofit.html
Hi,

I would be defining the most backed horse as the favourite at the time of first monitoring.

Regards,

Waywyrd.
You said earlier 'Where the last price was 15.0'

There'd only be a very small number of races were the fav would be 15.0
Unless i've mis-understood something?
Hi Dallas,

Apologies, not the favourite, should have been the most backed in traded amount or volume.
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waywyrd
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Hi,

How do you keep to just one selection that trades within you price range, per race? Basically only want to trade one horse per race.

Waywyrd
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waywyrd
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Hi,

How do I link Lay if WOM is Greater than 'X' for 5 Secs.baf rule to the selection made by the Back the Steamer.baf?

Basically ensuring, as much as you can, that the drift in odds isn't just a blip, and the price goes back in the wrong direction for greening up.

I've got both files loaded into BetAngel as 1 file, so just got stuck on which rules to alter and which to remove.

Waywyrd.
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Naffman
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What would happen if there was a NR within this period and say the odds on the fav moved from 2.7 to 2.1, when in fact they really didn't move it all, would BA recognise this or would it think it firmed 30 ticks?
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tootatoota
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Hi,
All
I have been trialling following the money on certain races and going OK.
What i would like to do is check ANY selection that steams from the Back price say at 5mins from the jump to a certain %.
This %(calculated in last 5 secs) that meets my criteria.
Can i get some help in Maybe (storing a value at 5min) if that is the way to do it and place a Back bet a 5secs before jump?
Thanks All
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Dallas
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tootatoota wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:01 am
Hi,
All
I have been trialling following the money on certain races and going OK.
What i would like to do is check ANY selection that steams from the Back price say at 5mins from the jump to a certain %.
This %(calculated in last 5 secs) that meets my criteria.
Can i get some help in Maybe (storing a value at 5min) if that is the way to do it and place a Back bet a 5secs before jump?
Thanks All
You could just use this one and arm it at 5 secs before post time and edit the 'Historical Relative Odds' condition to check back over 300secs and change the ticks to percentage
RCHRAINBOW
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Hi dallas
Can I ask what condition means to be in place so it does not back the same horse more than once which I have found in practice mode?
Thanks
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RCHRAINBOW wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:18 pm
Hi dallas
Can I ask what condition means to be in place so it does not back the same horse more than once which I have found in practice mode?
Thanks
The back rule should check Number of unmatched bets on the selection = 0 and Number of matched bets = 0. Then you'll only get a bet if there aren't any already.
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Dallas
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:34 pm
RCHRAINBOW wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:18 pm
Hi dallas
Can I ask what condition means to be in place so it does not back the same horse more than once which I have found in practice mode?
Thanks
The back rule should check Number of unmatched bets on the selection = 0 and Number of matched bets = 0. Then you'll only get a bet if there aren't any already.
You could also so use 'Number of place bet triggers condition' on the selection = 0, that will stop it triggering again on the same selection even if the bet is unmatched or has been cancelled
MartinJWilliams
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Thank you, these shared files are really helpful for someone just getting started with automation. I wanted to use this example as my first step into automation but had a newbie query... Apologies if it sounds stupid.

If I want to add a trailing stop to this I'm assuming it would be done via the global settings. I usually have my odds display via these settings in reverse as it just feels more intuitive that way. Would I therefore have to set the rule type to placing a lay bet rather than a back bet?
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MartinJWilliams wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:05 am
Thank you, these shared files are really helpful for someone just getting started with automation. I wanted to use this example as my first step into automation but had a newbie query... Apologies if it sounds stupid.

If I want to add a trailing stop to this I'm assuming it would be done via the global settings. I usually have my odds display via these settings in reverse as it just feels more intuitive that way. Would I therefore have to set the rule type to placing a lay bet rather than a back bet?
Glad you are finding them useful

Yes, a trailing stop is added in the Global Settings area on the Parameters tab of a rule

Most people who use the ladder screen tend to have the odds display set to reverse, but it's just a visual thing when manually trading
It has no bearing on automation rules
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