Scalp Tight Book% or Scratch in Loss Guardian Automation Bot

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markkirwan wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:41 pm
Not sure what went wrong with this on the 16:55 The Bay Birch a lay bet was placed for £60 at 2.27 then a back bet was placed for £9.74 at 2.32. Everything was going along as normal for the last 5 or 6 days then this :roll:

Where did the £60 stake come from :o

Just noticed on my betfair account there were 2 £10 lay bets then 1 back bet, then there were 4 £10 lay bets but no back bets and no greening up :cry:
Have you got a copy of the log from that market?
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Dallas wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:35 pm
markkirwan wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:41 pm
Not sure what went wrong with this on the 16:55 The Bay Birch a lay bet was placed for £60 at 2.27 then a back bet was placed for £9.74 at 2.32. Everything was going along as normal for the last 5 or 6 days then this :roll:

Where did the £60 stake come from :o

Just noticed on my betfair account there were 2 £10 lay bets then 1 back bet, then there were 4 £10 lay bets but no back bets and no greening up :cry:
Have you got a copy of the log from that market?
Please copied the log for the 16:55 race on Thursday below (I tried to add the file but it keeps saying text files & word files are invalid)

29/03/2018 16:49:50: Market changed to Towc 29th Mar - 16:55 2m4f Hcap Chs
29/03/2018 16:50:00: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:50:01: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.26. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120633914647 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:50:04: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120633914647) was killed.
29/03/2018 16:50:06: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:50:06: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120633925641 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:50:09: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:50:10: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:50:10: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.26. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120633934549 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:50:18: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:50:19: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120633925641) was killed.
29/03/2018 16:50:20: [G_Auto] : £ 10 of unmatched bet (Ref:120633934549) was filled before remainder was killed.
29/03/2018 16:50:20: [G_Auto] : £ 9.74 Back bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.32. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120633951332
29/03/2018 16:50:21: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 2
29/03/2018 16:51:39: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:51:40: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 2
29/03/2018 16:51:41: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 3
29/03/2018 16:51:42: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:51:42: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:51:42: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.24. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120634085272 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:51:46: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120634085272) was killed.
29/03/2018 16:51:46: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:51:46: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:51:48: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:51:49: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:51:49: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.28. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120634098776 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:51:50: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:51:50: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:51:51: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:51:52: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 2
29/03/2018 16:51:53: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120634098776) was killed.
29/03/2018 16:51:53: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:51:54: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:51:54: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.24. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120634106233 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:51:56: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:51:56: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:51:57: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120634106233) was killed.
29/03/2018 16:51:59: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:51:59: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.26. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120634115479 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:51:59: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:52:00: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 2
29/03/2018 16:52:01: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:02: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120634115479) was killed.
29/03/2018 16:52:04: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:04: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120634126427 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:52:07: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120634126427) was killed.
29/03/2018 16:52:08: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:08: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120634134234 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:52:08: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:52:08: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:11: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:12: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.28. Fully matched at 2.28. Ref: 120634139972 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:52:12: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:52:13: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:13: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:14: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.3. Fully matched at 2.26. Ref: 120634144081 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:52:14: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:52:16: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:16: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:16: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.28. Fully matched at 2.24. Ref: 120634149015 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:52:19: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:52:19: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:20: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:20: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:52:20: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.22. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120634156700 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
29/03/2018 16:52:21: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120634134234) was killed.
29/03/2018 16:52:21: [G_Auto] : £ 9.74 Back bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120634158897
29/03/2018 16:52:21: [G_Auto] : £ 9.74 Back bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.34. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120634158907
29/03/2018 16:52:21: [G_Auto] : £ 9.74 Back bet placed on The Bay Birch at 2.32. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120634158902
29/03/2018 16:52:21: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 2
29/03/2018 16:52:22: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:52:23: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:52:24: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120634156700) was killed.
29/03/2018 16:52:24: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 2
29/03/2018 16:52:25: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:54:36: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 1
29/03/2018 16:54:37: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 2
29/03/2018 16:54:39: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss = 3
29/03/2018 16:54:39: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: loss - Cleared
29/03/2018 16:54:45: [G_Auto] : Greened up The Bay Birch by Backing 50.80 at 2.24
29/03/2018 16:54:45: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 120634158897 120634158902 120634158907
29/03/2018 16:54:48: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 120634391319
29/03/2018 16:54:48: [G_Auto] : Greened up The Bay Birch by Backing 49.91 at 2.28
29/03/2018 16:54:51: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 120634397157
29/03/2018 16:54:51: [G_Auto] : Greened up The Bay Birch by Backing 51.26 at 2.22
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Have you made any changes to the original file - no matter how small?

The lay bet shouldn't trigger if there are ANY unmatched bets in the market so cant understand how its done so.
Also something even stranger is the first green up @ 2.24
Another was triggered 3 secs later (which is fine as that's what its suppose to do) but it has done so by sending another back bet as if the previous one was unmatched. That would be normal if the odds were shorter but they were now a few ticks higher so the first green @ 2.24 should have been matched if the odds were now 2.28 when the 2nd triggered.

What type of internet connection are you using - wired or wireless?

The only thing I can think of to explain that is a brief loss in connection where the first green-up was done but BA hadn't been able to retrieve that info so sent another
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No changes have been made.

I'm using a wireless broadband connection.

Its strange as I've sat here for the last 5 days actually watching it work and I thought "great I can go out and not watch it today" then when I come back this happened. :(

I'll sit here a watch it work today though :?
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markkirwan wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:21 pm

I'm using a wireless broadband connection.
That could certainly of caused the green up issue, a fraction of a second drop of connection at the wrong moment.
If you can use a wired connection I'd recommend doing so
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Today it done it again.

The 17:00 it laid Rons Dream at 5.30 but nothing else. So it was just a lay bet which won :x

I've now got a wired connection

I am running 2 pc's side by side, one had a loss of -0.60p the other a loss of -£43.00

31/03/2018 16:55:02: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
31/03/2018 16:55:02: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on Timeforwest at 5.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120873747013 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
31/03/2018 16:55:06: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120873747013) was killed.
31/03/2018 16:55:06: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
31/03/2018 16:55:06: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on Timeforwest at 5.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120873755373 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
31/03/2018 16:55:09: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120873755373) was killed.
31/03/2018 16:55:13: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
31/03/2018 16:55:13: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on Rons Dream at 5.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120873770920 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
31/03/2018 16:55:17: [G_Auto] : £ 10 unmatched bet (Ref:120873770920) was killed.
31/03/2018 16:55:39: [G_Auto] : Automation Signal for market: All Signals Cleared
31/03/2018 16:55:39: [G_Auto] : £ 10.00 Lay bet placed on Rons Dream at 5.3. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120873826299 ( Fill or kill bet with 3 seconds delay. Offsetting by 3 ticks with greening. )
31/03/2018 16:55:40: [G_Auto] : £ 10 of unmatched bet (Ref:120873826299) was filled before remainder was killed.
31/03/2018 16:55:41: [G_Auto] : £ 9.46 Back bet placed on Rons Dream at 5.6. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 120873829336
31/03/2018 16:59:45: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 120873829336
31/03/2018 16:59:45: [G_Auto] : Greened up Rons Dream by Backing 10.60 at 5
31/03/2018 16:59:48: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 120874389987
31/03/2018 16:59:48: [G_Auto] : Greened up Rons Dream by Backing 10.19 at 5.2
31/03/2018 16:59:53: [G_Auto] : Cancelling bets 120874396814
31/03/2018 16:59:53: [G_Auto] : Greened up Rons Dream by Backing 10.00 at 5.3
31/03/2018 17:03:38: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
31/03/2018 17:03:38: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
31/03/2018 17:03:49: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
31/03/2018 17:04:20: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play

Can you spot anything?
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Only that the odds are increasing as its triggering back bets to green up (so the first green up should be matched).
Although there were issues with the Betfair API this afternoon it was a little earlier than the times in you log.

Are you using streaming?
If so it could be a streaming issue so you could you try reverting back to polling and see how that goes
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Dallas wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:38 pm
Only that the odds are increasing as its triggering back bets to green up (so the first green up should be matched).
Although there were issues with the Betfair API this afternoon it was a little earlier than the times in you log.

Are you using streaming?
If so it could be a streaming issue so you could you try reverting back to polling and see how that goes
What does streaming or polling mean?
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I had a series of bets fail with BET_ACTION_ERROR around 5pm this evening. These were not placed via BA. So, there may have been some intermittent issues with the Exchange, akin to the issues earlier in the day.
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Isaw this on twitter today, downloaded it, put it in practice mode and it has not greened up at all either for green or a red, I have not done anything with it, just imported and let it run using my servant ?
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STARBUCK62 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:58 pm
Isaw this on twitter today, downloaded it, put it in practice mode and it has not greened up at all either for green or a red, I have not done anything with it, just imported and let it run using my servant ?
Its an automation file for use in Guardian not a servant.
If you used it as a servant did you keep the market on your screen at all times, ie you never switched to another market while it was running?
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Correct, I probably did change from one race to another, will do it through Guardian next time to observe it in its proper environment. ;)
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STARBUCK62 wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:36 pm
Correct, I probably did change from one race to another, will do it through Guardian next time to observe it in its proper environment. ;)
I'd have to check the file to be 100% sure but i think it can be used as a servant with no changes required, you just need to keep that market on screen at all times otherwise the servant gets stopped.
If you do switch to another even for a second you'll need to restart the servant again
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Hi, I've been playing around with this and having some success but I have a question about the scratch rule. If I go into a loss for a certain amount (I.e the odds fly off and not return) how can I get that to over-ride the signal count? So I want to keep the scratch signal process but if my loss get too much it kicks in, over rides and cancels the scratch signal count and reds up? Thanks.
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MLW wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 4:05 pm
Hi, I've been playing around with this and having some success but I have a question about the scratch rule. If I go into a loss for a certain amount (I.e the odds fly off and not return) how can I get that to over-ride the signal count? So I want to keep the scratch signal process but if my loss get too much it kicks in, over rides and cancels the scratch signal count and reds up? Thanks.
You'll need a 'Close trade on selection with greening' rule, with a trade profit condition is less than -£X.XX
Then on the signal tab use the same 'reset signal' settings as whats on the scratch rule
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