WOM Scalping Guardian Automation Bot

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Dallas
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budden wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:34 am
Hiya @Dallas,

Did you happen to get a chance to check out that bot at all and what i have wrong to cause the trigger firing?
No, i missed your message sorry, I'm not logged in for manual trading this afternoon but give this thread a bump in the morning and ill try and take a quick look before tomorrows racing starts
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:35 pm
budden wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:34 am
Hiya @Dallas,

Did you happen to get a chance to check out that bot at all and what i have wrong to cause the trigger firing?
No, i missed your message sorry, I'm not logged in for manual trading this afternoon but give this thread a bump in the morning and ill try and take a quick look before tomorrows racing starts
Think I've spotted the cause (from your earlier description i assume you mean its the cancel bets that are trigger when not needed)?

If that's right then it will be because the rule being used is 'Cancel unmatched bets on a selection' but its applied to ANY selection
When using this rule its best to create one for each individual selection

Also, I noticed the conditions you have are 1 unmatched bet and amounts of back/lays matched are equal
Assuming you want it to trigger if one side is matched and it moves you'll need to remove the amount of matched bets condition (as they won't be equal once one side is matched)
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:05 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:35 pm
budden wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:34 am
Hiya @Dallas,

Did you happen to get a chance to check out that bot at all and what i have wrong to cause the trigger firing?
No, i missed your message sorry, I'm not logged in for manual trading this afternoon but give this thread a bump in the morning and ill try and take a quick look before tomorrows racing starts
Think I've spotted the cause (from your earlier description i assume you mean its the cancel bets that are trigger when not needed)?

If that's right then it will be because the rule being used is 'Cancel unmatched bets on a selection' but its applied to ANY selection
When using this rule its best to create one for each individual selection

Also, I noticed the conditions you have are 1 unmatched bet and amounts of back/lays matched are equal
Assuming you want it to trigger if one side is matched and it moves you'll need to remove the amount of matched bets condition (as they won't be equal once one side is matched)
Hi Dallas thanks for all the info. Yes thats correct it is triggering the Cancell bets when not needed.

I also thought about the any selection issue and i have changed it to each individual selection and created seperate rules, that didnt fix the issue though but i think its much better this way.

I have removed the amount of matched bets condition, will test that tonight and see how it goes.

Thanks for all your help.
Brightonchappy
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Hello

I have been testing with this bot, more often than not, it gets into a greening period but then trades out into red and then the bot cancels (as it is surpose to) all bets and im left with a minus.

Is there a rule to insert where, I can say, if I get a certain greening, then the bot should stop completely?

Many thanks
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Brightonchappy wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:53 pm
Hello

I have been testing with this bot, more often than not, it gets into a greening period but then trades out into red and then the bot cancels (as it is surpose to) all bets and im left with a minus.

Is there a rule to insert where, I can say, if I get a certain greening, then the bot should stop completely?

Many thanks
Yes, you can add a green all selections rule with a green all profit condition
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11488

You'll then need to add a green all profit condition to the back/lay rule to stop them triggering anymore
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11656
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many thanks
dennissavels
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Hi everyone, im new to this forum. Great stuff BTW.
I have a question, sometimes a bet goes in play without being matched. Is there a way to fix this?

Thanks allot
dennissavels
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Hi everyone, im new to this forum. Great stuff BTW.

i have a question, sometimes a bet is going in play without being matched. Is there a rule/way to fix this?

thanks
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dennissavels wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 2:50 pm
Hi everyone, im new to this forum. Great stuff BTW.

i have a question, sometimes a bet is going in play without being matched. Is there a rule/way to fix this?

thanks
Yes, there is a rule type 'Keep all unmatched bets' you can use, just ensure its armed to trigger sometime after your last bet is placed
Stanman
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Hi Dallas,

Looking at WOM Scalping Bot (servant version). I note I made a query on this on 09/02/2019... Still learning! :D
I've downloaded a clean version to observe but I have noted a 'funny'
The bot stops for a reason i have yet to discover - see last line of log.

I'11/06/2020 17:55:17: [AS 13] : Automation Servant ( ASC WOM Scalping ) Started ( Selection context: Different Face. Back Stake context: £2.00 . Lay Stake context: £2.00 . )
11/06/2020 17:55:18: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Different Face at 3.7. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10255 ( Fill or kill bet with 600 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 4 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
11/06/2020 17:55:19: [AS 13] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:10255) was filled before remainder was killed.
11/06/2020 17:55:19: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on Different Face at 3.75. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10256
11/06/2020 17:55:56: Stop triggered. Modify bet 10256 from 2 @ 3.75 to 2 @ 3.45 New Ref: 10257
11/06/2020 17:55:56: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Different Face at 3.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10258 ( Fill or kill bet with 600 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 4 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
11/06/2020 17:55:57: [AS 13] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:10258) was killed.
11/06/2020 17:55:58: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Different Face at 3.5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10259 ( Fill or kill bet with 600 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 4 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
11/06/2020 17:55:59: [AS 13] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:10259) was killed.
11/06/2020 17:56:06: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on Different Face at 3.65. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10260 ( Fill or kill bet with 600 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 4 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
11/06/2020 17:56:07: [AS 13] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:10260) was killed.
11/06/2020 17:56:07: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on Different Face at 3.65. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10261 ( Fill or kill bet with 600 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 4 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
11/06/2020 17:56:09: [AS 13] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:10261) was killed.
11/06/2020 17:56:09: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Different Face at 3.55. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10262 ( Fill or kill bet with 600 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 4 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
11/06/2020 17:56:18: [AS 13] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:10262) was killed.
11/06/2020 17:56:18: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Different Face at 3.55. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10263 ( Fill or kill bet with 600 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 4 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
11/06/2020 17:56:23: [AS 13] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:10263) was filled before remainder was killed.
11/06/2020 17:56:23: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on Different Face at 3.6. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10264
11/06/2020 17:56:24: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Different Face at 3.55. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10265 ( Fill or kill bet with 600 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 4 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
11/06/2020 17:56:25: [AS 13] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:10265) was filled before remainder was killed.
11/06/2020 17:56:25: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Back bet placed on Different Face at 3.6. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10266
11/06/2020 17:56:46: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Different Face at 3.6. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10267 ( Fill or kill bet with 600 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 4 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
11/06/2020 17:56:48: [AS 13] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:10267) was killed.
11/06/2020 17:56:48: [AS 13] : Cancelling bets 10267
11/06/2020 17:56:49: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Different Face at 3.65. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10268 ( Fill or kill bet with 600 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 4 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
11/06/2020 17:56:52: [AS 13] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:10268) was killed.
11/06/2020 17:56:53: [AS 13] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Different Face at 3.7. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10269 ( Fill or kill bet with 600 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 4 ticks. Place stop at 5 ticks )
11/06/2020 17:56:55: [AS 13] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:10269) was filled before remainder was killed. Position Closed therefore no offset/stop required.
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What's the Position Closed therefore no offset/stop required.
The only Position Closed that I can see is when the bot goes in play, but it stopped well before the actual start-time

(It has done this stop a few times - once after only a minute or so.)
Stanman
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I had changed the WOM values in settings - woould this have affected things?
Buzz
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Excuse the Newbie question but what does WOM stand for??
What are the best type of races to use this Bot on and ones not to use it on.
Thanks in Advance
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Buzz wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:14 pm
Excuse the Newbie question but what does WOM stand for??
What are the best type of races to use this Bot on and ones not to use it on.
Thanks in Advance
Weight Of Money

How its calculated is explained near the bottom of this page of the User Guide
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/display.html

Any type of scalping bot is best suited to stable markets, or when a price is trending in one direction, his three part blog series might help, it covers the best types of races to scalp and when to attempt it etc
https://www.betfairtradingblog.com/betf ... explained/
Buzz
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Thanks very much for explaining
Vaz0202
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Hi Dallas,

You might be able to help with this.

Creating a scalping bot - is there anyway a back could be placed if the fav’s prices have dropped by 2 ticks within the last 5 seconds?

Is there any trigger for this in the automation?
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