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jamesg46
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:48 pm
waywyrd wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:42 pm
Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:25 pm


If you mean the money waiting there is a separate example here
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=18645
Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:25 pm


If you mean the money waiting there is a separate example here
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=18645
That money waiting could be useful.

Having gone back over the bot I was trying to set volume traded/condition, but it only allows a greater or less than figure. And now trying to work out how to change that to a percentage figure, if that's possible? I can see options for % in stored values, but struggling with which options I need to match with each other. Hope that makes sense. I realised after I set bot up that WOM is too easily manipulated, and so figure % volume traded/condition would give clearer more reliable indication?

Waywyrd.
You can store the value of the traded volume at a price but not what the overall percentage is.
This one might also help
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=18997
I tried to get this myself using History Lists. History list 1 storing the traded volume at best back/lay price & History List 2 storing selection volume then History List 3 storing value of History List 1 devided by History List 2. Problem is I don't know how that data translates so I tried to export my History Lists to check but for some odd reason I've forgotten how to do it, I've got files that export SV's but for the life of me I can't get this one to work.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:12 pm

I tried to get this myself using History Lists. History list 1 storing the traded volume at best back/lay price & History List 2 storing selection volume then History List 3 storing value of History List 1 devided by History List 2. Problem is I don't know how that data translates so I tried to export my History Lists to check but for some odd reason I've forgotten how to do it, I've got files that export SV's but for the life of me I can't get this one to work.
That's not a bad idea,I guess it depends on the market and how fast the prices are moving as to how much you can do with it

Regarding the problem you are having do you mean you are stuck on the export to check them
or calculating them from the export
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:28 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:12 pm

I tried to get this myself using History Lists. History list 1 storing the traded volume at best back/lay price & History List 2 storing selection volume then History List 3 storing value of History List 1 devided by History List 2. Problem is I don't know how that data translates so I tried to export my History Lists to check but for some odd reason I've forgotten how to do it, I've got files that export SV's but for the life of me I can't get this one to work.
That's not a bad idea,I guess it depends on the market and how fast the prices are moving as to how much you can do with it

Regarding the problem you are having do you mean you are stuck on the export to check them
or calculating them from the export
On the export, ive set the rule to export all SV's & History Lists as per usual but I can't find the files come the end of the day. I've always had that issue tbh, what I used to do was click "browse" within the parameters section of the rule and it would bring up all exported files.

The problem I've got after using the history lists that way is to which decimal place is the data being stored, once that problem is solved I can use it within conditions.

Either that or I'll wait for one of the upgrades to have it if enough request.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:45 pm
Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:28 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:12 pm

I tried to get this myself using History Lists. History list 1 storing the traded volume at best back/lay price & History List 2 storing selection volume then History List 3 storing value of History List 1 devided by History List 2. Problem is I don't know how that data translates so I tried to export my History Lists to check but for some odd reason I've forgotten how to do it, I've got files that export SV's but for the life of me I can't get this one to work.
That's not a bad idea,I guess it depends on the market and how fast the prices are moving as to how much you can do with it

Regarding the problem you are having do you mean you are stuck on the export to check them
or calculating them from the export
On the export, ive set the rule to export all SV's & History Lists as per usual but I can't find the files come the end of the day. I've always had that issue tbh, what I used to do was click "browse" within the parameters section of the rule and it would bring up all exported files.

The problem I've got after using the history lists that way is to which decimal place is the data being stored, once that problem is solved I can use it within conditions.

Either that or I'll wait for one of the upgrades to have it if enough request.
Can you strip out any additional rules and upload a file with just the SV and export rules and i'll take a look
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:18 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:45 pm
Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:28 pm


That's not a bad idea,I guess it depends on the market and how fast the prices are moving as to how much you can do with it

Regarding the problem you are having do you mean you are stuck on the export to check them
or calculating them from the export
On the export, ive set the rule to export all SV's & History Lists as per usual but I can't find the files come the end of the day. I've always had that issue tbh, what I used to do was click "browse" within the parameters section of the rule and it would bring up all exported files.

The problem I've got after using the history lists that way is to which decimal place is the data being stored, once that problem is solved I can use it within conditions.

Either that or I'll wait for one of the upgrades to have it if enough request.
Can you strip out any additional rules and upload a file with just the SV and export rules and i'll take a look
Yeah, will do & appreciate it. Its on my other computer to the one I'm currently using so I'll upload the file when I log into it. There isn't any rush so whenever you've got a spare 5 will be just dandy.
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:18 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:45 pm
Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:28 pm


That's not a bad idea,I guess it depends on the market and how fast the prices are moving as to how much you can do with it

Regarding the problem you are having do you mean you are stuck on the export to check them
or calculating them from the export
On the export, ive set the rule to export all SV's & History Lists as per usual but I can't find the files come the end of the day. I've always had that issue tbh, what I used to do was click "browse" within the parameters section of the rule and it would bring up all exported files.

The problem I've got after using the history lists that way is to which decimal place is the data being stored, once that problem is solved I can use it within conditions.

Either that or I'll wait for one of the upgrades to have it if enough request.
Can you strip out any additional rules and upload a file with just the SV and export rules and i'll take a look
While I've got your attention (I did reply to your last response if you haven't yet seen) if I set this rule will it be 1 second ago and thats it or can/does it mean greater than 1 second ago?
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jamesg46 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:47 pm
Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:18 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:45 pm


On the export, ive set the rule to export all SV's & History Lists as per usual but I can't find the files come the end of the day. I've always had that issue tbh, what I used to do was click "browse" within the parameters section of the rule and it would bring up all exported files.

The problem I've got after using the history lists that way is to which decimal place is the data being stored, once that problem is solved I can use it within conditions.

Either that or I'll wait for one of the upgrades to have it if enough request.
Can you strip out any additional rules and upload a file with just the SV and export rules and i'll take a look
While I've got your attention (I did reply to your last response if you haven't yet seen) if I set this rule will it be 1 second ago and thats it or can/does it mean greater than 1 second ago?
Its exactly 1 sec ago, the greater than element is looking at the price not time
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:55 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:47 pm
Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:18 pm


Can you strip out any additional rules and upload a file with just the SV and export rules and i'll take a look
While I've got your attention (I did reply to your last response if you haven't yet seen) if I set this rule will it be 1 second ago and thats it or can/does it mean greater than 1 second ago?
Its exactly 1 sec ago, the greater than element is looking at the price not time
Not to go off topic but just checked S6 after that last reply and ironically were currently joint top with 17pts :)

Edit: can still both potentially hit 30pts - although <7pts by FT more likely :lol:
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Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:56 pm
Dallas wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:55 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:47 pm


While I've got your attention (I did reply to your last response if you haven't yet seen) if I set this rule will it be 1 second ago and thats it or can/does it mean greater than 1 second ago?
Its exactly 1 sec ago, the greater than element is looking at the price not time
Not to go off topic but just checked S6 after that last reply and ironically were currently joint top with 17pts :)

Edit: can still both potentially hit 30pts - although <7pts by FT more likely :lol:
I checked too, think you have the edge this round.
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Hi Dallas,

Thanks for your bots they are awesome.

Is there a way on this one to green up at £X.XX profit instead of just 15 seconds prior to race time? Didn't know if I could just adapt the existing green up rule to add a condition to green out if profit >= £X.XX and it would tap out so to speak?

Thanks.
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mtrehearn wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:37 pm
Hi Dallas,

Thanks for your bots they are awesome.

Is there a way on this one to green up at £X.XX profit instead of just 15 seconds prior to race time? Didn't know if I could just adapt the existing green up rule to add a condition to green out if profit >= £X.XX and it would tap out so to speak?

Thanks.
Glad your finding them useful

Yes you can just add the profit condition to the green up as you described above, although its probably best to leave this default one in as a back up and add another green up rule with the profit condition

That way if you reach your profit that will trigger, if not the original one will still green up just before the off

Also if you want to stop the rules triggering you'll need to add a green up profit condition to those as detailed here
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11656
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Dallas wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:27 pm
mtrehearn wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:37 pm
Hi Dallas,

Thanks for your bots they are awesome.

Is there a way on this one to green up at £X.XX profit instead of just 15 seconds prior to race time? Didn't know if I could just adapt the existing green up rule to add a condition to green out if profit >= £X.XX and it would tap out so to speak?

Thanks.
Glad your finding them useful

Yes you can just add the profit condition to the green up as you described above, although its probably best to leave this default one in as a back up and add another green up rule with the profit condition

That way if you reach your profit that will trigger, if not the original one will still green up just before the off

Also if you want to stop the rules triggering you'll need to add a green up profit condition to those as detailed here
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11656
Thanks for getting back to me.

I have added one in and it works perfect. One issue I am having is that the offset bet isn't always being added. I have had it a couple of occasions today (below are a couple of logs).

Log #1

14/11/2021 14:15:03: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Golden Jewel at 6.8. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10434 ( Fill or kill bet with 900 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 2 ticks. Place stop at 3 ticks )
14/11/2021 14:15:05: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:10434) was killed.
14/11/2021 14:15:18: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Golden Jewel at 6.8. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10436 ( Fill or kill bet with 900 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 2 ticks. Place stop at 3 ticks )
14/11/2021 14:17:19: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:10436) was filled before remainder was killed. Position Closed therefore no offset/stop required.

Log #2

14/11/2021 13:45:14: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on The Yellow Mini at 8.6. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10368 ( Fill or kill bet with 900 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 2 ticks. Place stop at 3 ticks )
14/11/2021 13:45:20: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:10368) was killed.
14/11/2021 13:45:25: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on The Yellow Mini at 8.8. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10369 ( Fill or kill bet with 900 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 2 ticks. Place stop at 3 ticks )
14/11/2021 13:45:29: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:10369) was killed.
14/11/2021 13:45:35: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on The Yellow Mini at 8.8. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10370 ( Fill or kill bet with 900 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 2 ticks. Place stop at 3 ticks )
14/11/2021 13:45:53: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:10370) was filled before remainder was killed. Position Closed therefore no offset/stop required.

Log #3

14/11/2021 14:20:07: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Bleue Away at 5. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10462 ( Fill or kill bet with 900 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 2 ticks. Place stop at 3 ticks )
14/11/2021 14:21:05: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2 unmatched bet (Ref:10462) was killed.
14/11/2021 14:21:31: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2.00 Lay bet placed on Bleue Away at 5.1. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10463 ( Fill or kill bet with 900 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks. Stop at 2 ticks. Place stop at 3 ticks )
14/11/2021 14:21:49: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:10463) was filled before remainder was killed. Position Closed therefore no offset/stop required.


I notice that on each of them it relates to a lay bet being placed and the bot closing the position stating that no offset is required and it doesn't place the back bet to offset.

Any ideas at all please as I can't figure out why it does it sometimes but not others?

Thanks
verance
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mtrehearn wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:28 pm
14/11/2021 14:21:49: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:10463) was filled before remainder was killed. Position Closed therefore no offset/stop required.


I notice that on each of them it relates to a lay bet being placed and the bot closing the position stating that no offset is required and it doesn't place the back bet to offset.

Any ideas at all please as I can't figure out why it does it sometimes but not others?

Thanks
I'm getting this same error. From another thread, it seems to be when a cancel unmatched bets rule is being fired at the same time as the bet is filled. Is there any solution for this?
15/02/2022 15:44:45: [G_Auto 1] : € 128.21 Lay bet placed on Shalaa Asker at 4.9. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10221 ( Fill or kill bet with 9999 seconds delay. Offsetting by 2 ticks with greening. )
15/02/2022 16:33:33: [G_Auto 1] : € 128.21 of unmatched bet (Ref:10221) was filled before remainder was killed. Position Closed therefore no offset/stop required.
verance
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verance wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:02 am
mtrehearn wrote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:28 pm
14/11/2021 14:21:49: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2 of unmatched bet (Ref:10463) was filled before remainder was killed. Position Closed therefore no offset/stop required.


I notice that on each of them it relates to a lay bet being placed and the bot closing the position stating that no offset is required and it doesn't place the back bet to offset.

Any ideas at all please as I can't figure out why it does it sometimes but not others?

Thanks
I'm getting this same error. From another thread, it seems to be when a cancel unmatched bets rule is being fired at the same time as the bet is filled. Is there any solution for this?
I made this severe example rules file which basically cancels unmatched bets whenever there's a bet matched on the best back price.

Offsets are never set because the cancel is sent immediately (20ms) as the bet is filled.

Is there any way to fix this without creating my own manual offset bet rule? (I only want to offset certain bets, not all)
17/02/2022 13:07:58: [G_Auto 1] : € 138.89 Lay bet placed on Cuban Breeze at 8.2. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 10097 ( Fill or kill bet with 99999 seconds delay. Offsetting by 1 ticks with greening. Stop at 2 ticks. Place stop at 2 ticks )
17/02/2022 13:21:57: [G_Auto 1] : € 3.73482616782189 of unmatched bet (Ref:10097) was filled before remainder was killed. Position Closed therefore no offset/stop required.
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@Dallas - Is there a solution to the previous post as I have seen this happen myself, anything we can do about it ?
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