Back & Lay the Biggest Pre-Off Movers - Guardian Automation Bot

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Mayur1 wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:16 pm
Hi,

So its worked majority of the time but sometimes i get the below in the log:

08/11/2021 16:24:40: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
08/11/2021 16:24:48: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
08/11/2021 16:54:31: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Euraquilo: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 16:54:31: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for The Menstone Gem: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 16:54:31: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Atrium: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 16:54:31: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Lawful Command: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 16:54:31: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Master Richard: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 16:54:31: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Skittlebombz: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 16:54:31: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Flippin Eck: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 16:54:43: [G_Auto 1] : £ 5.00 Lay bet placed on Euraquilo at 3.6. Fully matched at 3.6. Ref: 10042
08/11/2021 16:54:43: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for Euraquilo: Greened_Bets = 0
08/11/2021 16:55:56: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
08/11/2021 16:56:02: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
08/11/2021 16:56:08: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
08/11/2021 16:57:27: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

So its bet on Euraquilo just because its rank 1 as due to invalid value it couldnt compile the correct list. Strange!
There's no SV's from the first rule in that log. was the rule applied to the market with more than 20mins still to go?

If the rule is still armed as per the instructions on the last page (from 20mins to 19:50secs) then the log show show the runners its triggered on
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The rule has been armed against all races all morning, i have tweaked it so that it looks at it 5mins before the off. I have attached a screenshot.
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It's still armed till 00:00:00

You need to create a small window ie, from 5mins to 4:50 anything outside your prices during that time is excluded

Having it armed till 00:00:00 means runners can slip in and out of your price range during that 5 minutes and the rule will trigger on them
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Ah right ok. So i have entered a stop time for all rules, within relevant parameters..however, it has still done the below:

08/11/2021 18:29:22: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Benzema: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:29:22: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Romantic Thought: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:29:22: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Dalglish: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:29:22: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Doomsday: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:29:22: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Janaat: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:29:22: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Lunasa: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:29:41: [G_Auto 1] : £ 5.00 Lay bet placed on Benzema at 3.5. Fully matched at 3.5. Ref: 10045
08/11/2021 18:29:41: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for Benzema: Greened_Bets = 0
08/11/2021 18:32:47: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
08/11/2021 18:32:47: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
08/11/2021 18:32:50: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
08/11/2021 18:33:45: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

This was a 6 runner race and it should not have bet on this race at all however it has still gone ahead and done this. Question, is it because i dont have a condition on the 2nd store IP rule, which looks at the number of runners and therefore it just triggers and compiles the list anyway, which ends up triggering the lay rule.

Should i just add a signal to rule one and then put it as condition on all others? Is there another option to resolve this issue.
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Starting with the original file the only changes to be made are to the 'Store IP% @ 20mins' rule
Change the arm time to
00:05:00 till 00:04:50

And add your 2 x fixed odds conditions, and number of selections conditions


everything else should be left as it is

a log will then look like this;

08/11/2021 18:50:00: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Clear Angel: opening_IP = 8
08/11/2021 18:50:00: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Canzone: opening_IP = 8.696 = 9
08/11/2021 18:50:00: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Stroxx: opening_IP = 5.556 = 6
08/11/2021 18:50:00: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Tantastic: opening_IP = 5.882 = 6
08/11/2021 18:50:00: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Zaghal: opening_IP = 3.846 = 4
08/11/2021 18:59:30: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Matamua: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:59:30: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Tilia Cordata: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:59:30: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Naval Captain: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:59:30: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Clear Angel: closing_IP = 7.692 - 8 = -0.31
08/11/2021 18:59:30: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Canzone: closing_IP = 5.882 - 9 = -3.12
08/11/2021 18:59:30: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Stroxx: closing_IP = 6.452 - 6 = 0.45
08/11/2021 18:59:30: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Tantastic: closing_IP = 7.407 - 6 = 1.41
08/11/2021 18:59:30: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Zaghal: closing_IP = 5.405 - 4 = 1.41
08/11/2021 18:59:30: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Highest Wave: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:59:30: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Royal Princess: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:59:30: [G_Auto 1] : Unable to : Store Value (Shared) for Diamond Memories: closing_IP. Second value invalid.
08/11/2021 18:59:35: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for Zaghal: biggest_shortener = 1
08/11/2021 18:59:35: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for Canzone: biggest_lenthener = 1
08/11/2021 18:59:35: [G_Auto 1] : £ 10.00 Back bet placed on Zaghal at 17.5. Fully matched at 17.5. Ref: 10000
08/11/2021 18:59:35: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.61 Lay bet placed on Canzone at 17.5. Fully matched at 17.5. Ref: 10001
08/11/2021 18:59:48: Connecting Newcastle 8th Nov - 19:00 6f Nov Stks to the Total Performance Data service.

If you don't want to drifter delete the following rules
Store Order Ascending
Lay Biggest Drifter


and that will do it
Mayur1
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Hi

Thats working as expected.

I was wondering if you can help with something. Lets say the first rule triggers and it only finds 1 horse between the given price range.

How do i check that the price of that horse hasnt moved in because what might happen is that i may end up backing it as a steamer. This only happens in races where the first rule only has 1 horse in that criteria.

I thought of adding a condition on the lay rule which checks stored value of opening and closing and if closing is less than opening then dont back it but this doesnt work because if there are more than 2 horses in the array from 1st rule.

Essentially:

1. Check If opening_IP has more than 1 horse..if it does carry on. If has just 1 then do the following:
2. Get the price before the off - closing_IP
3. Check that closing_IP is greater than opening_IP. If true lay the horse. If false, do nothing.

Its point 1 that i am struggling with. Not sure how i can check how many values are there in opening_ip.

Thank you very much
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How would i make this strategy apply to just the top 5 horses by say fav? i.e biggest drifters and steamers in the top 5 favs?
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dodgechallenger wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:27 am
How would i make this strategy apply to just the top 5 horses by say fav? i.e biggest drifters and steamers in the top 5 favs?
It would just need a 'Relative Odds Condition' configured as
Selections Back Price
Is less than
the Back Price
Of 'Selection in order of favouritism 6'
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Thanks Dallas, what rule(s) would i add this condition to?
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dodgechallenger wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:16 pm
Thanks Dallas, what rule(s) would i add this condition to?
It can just be added to the back and lay rules at the bottom, that way everything else still does it job but the final rule that actually places the bet can only trigger on a selection actual bet is triggered if it's the 1-5th fav
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Thanks again
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Hi there,

Is there any way to mitigate the loss when a bet is unmatched at the off.

regards
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Rich1950 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:13 pm
Hi there,

Is there any way to mitigate the loss when a bet is unmatched at the off.

regards
Normally you'd add/use a 'Green all selections' rule, and arm that to trigger a few times after your other rules have finished
So on this file arming it to green up from 00:00:01 after start time until 00:00:10 after start time with a re-arm time of 2 or 3 secs
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Hi Dallas

Many thanks for that. New to all of this.

I will attempt to do that

regards

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Hi Dallas

I have testing this file for a couple of days now and I am not a Millionaire yet

Am I doing something wrong :D

Seriously I have a rule as you suggested does it look right to you

regards
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