Betfair Down / Betfair site crash

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Emmson
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CB is quiet on twit, almost as if he hasn't been trading and so is unaffected! :D
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Euler
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Emmson wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:48 pm
CB is quiet on twit, almost as if he hasn't been trading and so is unaffected! :D
:lol:
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20 million in the betfair market, 20K in the betdaq market. NO SLACK TAKEN UP WHATSOEVER :roll:
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Euler
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Nah, some markets are poorly served. I'm currently helping out on the racing, but some of the other sports are a bit 'thin'
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Will it be back up for Emma Raducanu?
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WHY DO WE PUT UP WITH THIS BETFAIR BO**OCKS? I bet their in house traders are making them a nice little packet!
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Euler
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This is a big outage!
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Kai
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Let us pray Bet Angel congregation 🙏

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goat68
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bennyboy351 wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:13 pm
WHY DO WE PUT UP WITH THIS BETFAIR BO**OCKS? I bet their in house traders are making them a nice little packet!
it is what it is...! and because no one wants to try anywhere else maybe...? we want to trade where the volume is so why trade anywhere else...?
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I'm sure you've all read things like these:
- https://ppb.technology/2019/09/24/showc ... it-london/
- https://www.slideshare.net/ConfluentInc ... -scale-10x

So they're based on Kafka, which is not something I have a lot of experience with, although I do with WebSphere MQ messaging which it is a bit akin to. I'm somewhat surprised given Kafka's reliability models that there is an outage like this, which makes me think it's probably not a core Kafka issue, but some obviously critical side service... any ideas anyone? Do they ever publish details of the technical reasons for outages? i'd be interested in reading.
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Euler
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I totally get that complex systems are prone to issues. So I can sort of come to terms with that and how difficult it is to manage.

But I find it tough to come to terms with how they manage it and their policies surrounding them.

They currently benefit when the site crashes, they should be punished for it.
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Kai
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Back up.
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Derek27
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From past experience after a major outage it's usually okay for the rest of the night, but I'll be testing my automation to very low stakes.
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goat68
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Euler wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:35 pm

They currently benefit when the site crashes, they should be punished for it.
Why do they benefit? surely they're losing transaction income?
Seems they thus have no incentive to make sure it is more reliable... If I had a "corner a market" and actually made money if the system had a glitch, I would definitely not hurry to fix it, at least while we still had it "cornered"...!
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Kai
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Salvaged most of it but adding another -300 to my outage tally

Needed a Villa goal but never on the right side of it
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