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Leeds1919
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:25 pm
Leeds1919 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:19 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:07 pm


Have a look at the image in the opening post, the lay price (1.72) is 2 ticks greater than the back price (1.70), so it will fill that gap with a bet

If you wanted two ticks gap (ie to offer a back and lay bet at the front of the queue on both sides you'd use equal to plus 3 ticks in the condition
Hi Dallas,

I get that part, but looking at the conditions I dont understand how the servant knows theres a gap in the first place.
If the lay price is equal to 2 ticks higher than the back price there has to be a 1 tick gap
If they were touching the'd be no gap and the condition wouldn't be satisfied
Ok thanks for explaining Dallas think I hvae a handle on it now
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Dallas wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:05 pm
TIP

Its surprising how many times a gap will appear on pre race horse racing markets even in the final few minutes, it usually filled faster than you can see it let alone react - but this is no problem for a servant!
Hi Dallas
many thanks for all this stuff that you add

how easy would it be to add a stop loss to this servant say 3 or 4 ticks, so it takes the loss and fires again, instead of the price just drifting well away?

cheers
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Bubace wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:09 pm
Dallas wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:05 pm
TIP

Its surprising how many times a gap will appear on pre race horse racing markets even in the final few minutes, it usually filled faster than you can see it let alone react - but this is no problem for a servant!
Hi Dallas
many thanks for all this stuff that you add

how easy would it be to add a stop loss to this servant say 3 or 4 ticks, so it takes the loss and fires again, instead of the price just drifting well away?

cheers
Glad you are finding them useful

It would be very easy to make that change with this servant, just go onto the Parameters tab and change the 'Offset bet with greening' to 'offset bet with greening and stop' and set the number of ticks stop you want
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If I want to scratch an offset bet if it hasnt been filled within X seconds how do I go about it?
Leeds1919
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Sorry I asked this question wrong. I should have asked if its possible to scratch an offset bet if its not matched after X seconds?

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Leeds1919 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:29 pm
Sorry I asked this question wrong. I should have asked if its possible to scratch an offset bet if its not matched after X seconds?

Ta
Yes it can be done but the term 'scratch' usually means trade out of a position quickly at the same price.

So just to clarify are you wanting to exit at the entry price if the offset is not matched within 'X' seconds
Or just close the trade at any price even if its a few ticks loss if the offset is not matched within 'X' seconds
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Dallas wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:39 pm
Yes it can be done but the term 'scratch' usually means trade out of a position quickly at the same price.

So just to clarify are you wanting to exit at the entry price if the offset is not matched within 'X' seconds
Or just close the trade at any price even if its a few ticks loss if the offset is not matched within 'X' seconds
Hi Dallas, the first one. Scratch or try to scratch at entry if not filled after so X seconds. Kind of like a fill or kill for the offset
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Leeds1919 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:05 pm
Dallas wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:39 pm
Yes it can be done but the term 'scratch' usually means trade out of a position quickly at the same price.

So just to clarify are you wanting to exit at the entry price if the offset is not matched within 'X' seconds
Or just close the trade at any price even if its a few ticks loss if the offset is not matched within 'X' seconds
Hi Dallas, the first one. Scratch or try to scratch at entry if not filled after so X seconds. Kind of like a fill or kill for the offset
If you download this servant it has the rules already made to scratch at entry, so you'll be able to copy how the 'scratch' parts set-up into this one
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=20737
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Dallas wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:23 pm
If you download this servant it has the rules already made to scratch at entry, so you'll be able to copy how the 'scratch' parts set-up into this one
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=20737
Ta mate one last question then I'll leave you be. I have a practice rule that I was playing with but the green up all rule went a bit nuts, it literally placed a green up bet on each runner and from stakes of £2 I had a liability of nearly 2 grand :) The log is below, what havent I done?



16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
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Leeds1919 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:04 pm
Dallas wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:23 pm
If you download this servant it has the rules already made to scratch at entry, so you'll be able to copy how the 'scratch' parts set-up into this one
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=20737
Ta mate one last question then I'll leave you be. I have a practice rule that I was playing with but the green up all rule went a bit nuts, it literally placed a green up bet on each runner and from stakes of £2 I had a liability of nearly 2 grand :) The log is below, what havent I done?



16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
Thats showing you have a greenup rule triggering multiple times at the same time, the likely reason is you've added it to a servant then started the servant several times pre-off, and the green up rule from everytime the servant has been started has triggered at the same time
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Dallas wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:48 am
Leeds1919 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:04 pm
Dallas wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:23 pm
If you download this servant it has the rules already made to scratch at entry, so you'll be able to copy how the 'scratch' parts set-up into this one
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=20737
Ta mate one last question then I'll leave you be. I have a practice rule that I was playing with but the green up all rule went a bit nuts, it literally placed a green up bet on each runner and from stakes of £2 I had a liability of nearly 2 grand :) The log is below, what havent I done?



16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
Thats showing you have a greenup rule triggering multiple times at the same time, the likely reason is you've added it to a servant then started the servant several times pre-off, and the green up rule from everytime the servant has been started has triggered at the same time

Hi Dallas,

Is that normal? All I did was add the servant to each runner and the servant fired several times for each. But then the green up part of the rule just went a bit crazy. Is there a workaround to stop that happening?

Ta
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Leeds1919 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:32 pm
Dallas wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:48 am
Leeds1919 wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:04 pm


Ta mate one last question then I'll leave you be. I have a practice rule that I was playing with but the green up all rule went a bit nuts, it literally placed a green up bet on each runner and from stakes of £2 I had a liability of nearly 2 grand :) The log is below, what havent I done?



16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 68] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 69] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 70] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 71] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 1. Shut Up Vinny by Backing 5.49 at 7.2
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 2. Go On Annie by Laying 1.30 at 4.3
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 3. Culsheasheaciara by Backing 0.72 at 6
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 5. Justin Time by Laying 1.48 at 3.55
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 4. Mellys Majestic by Backing 50.72 at 7.8
16/09/2020 18:01:54: [AS 72] : Greened up 6. Insane Cyclist by Laying 1.17 at 19.5
Thats showing you have a greenup rule triggering multiple times at the same time, the likely reason is you've added it to a servant then started the servant several times pre-off, and the green up rule from everytime the servant has been started has triggered at the same time

Hi Dallas,

Is that normal? All I did was add the servant to each runner and the servant fired several times for each. But then the green up part of the rule just went a bit crazy. Is there a workaround to stop that happening?

Ta
Change the green all selections rule to close trade on selection with greening
Leeds1919
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:15 am
Leeds1919 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:32 pm
Dallas wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:48 am


Thats showing you have a greenup rule triggering multiple times at the same time, the likely reason is you've added it to a servant then started the servant several times pre-off, and the green up rule from everytime the servant has been started has triggered at the same time

Hi Dallas,

Is that normal? All I did was add the servant to each runner and the servant fired several times for each. But then the green up part of the rule just went a bit crazy. Is there a workaround to stop that happening?

Ta
Change the green all selections rule to close trade on selection with greening

Ta mate that fixed it
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Hi Dallas, I've been getting some strange greened positions with an automation I have on trial … nothing to do with this servant but I wonder are you suggesting that to use "close trade on selection with greening" is preferable to Green-Up all selections if you only have a position on one selection?
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:35 am
Hi Dallas, I've been getting some strange greened positions with an automation I have on trial … nothing to do with this servant but I wonder are you suggesting that to use "close trade on selection with greening" is preferable to Green-Up all selections if you only have a position on one selection?
Wouldn't make any difference which you used when greening up one selection.

In the case of the guy above he was using a servant multiple times each with a green all selection rule, so when it come time for that rule to trigger it was effectively triggering several green all selections rules all at once, hence all the multiple triggers at the same time
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