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jghinge
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Hi,

Thanks again. I did try a couple of test trades and although I am not sure exactly what is going wrong, I placed £10 back and a £10 lay and ended up with bets much larger than that. it placed some much larger random trades than I put in. It seems it places multiple trades. I have run out of UK races now to try and find out more.

Will try again tomorrow.

Thanks again
Archery1969
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jghinge wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:48 pm
Hi,

Thanks again. I did try a couple of test trades and although I am not sure exactly what is going wrong, I placed £10 back and a £10 lay and ended up with bets much larger than that. it placed some much larger random trades than I put in. It seems it places multiple trades. I have run out of UK races now to try and find out more.

Will try again tomorrow.

Thanks again
A couple of things:
- Stop using it.
- Only use minimum stakes. ie. £2 and not £10.
- Each rule is only designed to fire 1 time unless you are clicking multiple times on a selections ladder.

And finally, is your ladder reversed ?
Archery1969
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Think I might have found the problem.

New version attached.

Use the minimum stakes. ie. £2

Cheers,
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jghinge
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Hi,

Thanks again. I will try the new version today.
In answer to your questions I am not clicking multiple times but yes my ladder is reversed which is how I manually trade. It seemed to work Okay with the original version when reversed. Should I put it back to normal mode to use this one please?

Thanks
jamesg46
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:05 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:24 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:10 pm


The problem must be using 'Servant Context Price' in the same file. Any ideas Dallas ? :roll:
I think what is happening is that when the Servant is triggered on the back side (placing the back bet first) guardian then goes onto cycle through the rules and the lay bet side then triggers but I haven't had time to delve into it too much so I could be very wrong. If that is the case then it'll just require a condition on both sides to check the opposing side has triggered... that is my initial thoughts but like I say I haven't really had chance to get into it too much and even when I do it may turn out that I've not got a scooby doo.
Just having a quick catch up on this now, I'll try and look at the Servant in the morning but from memory I'm not sure you'll be able to configure it to back and lay with one servant/short cut key

I also think i'm right in thinking Archery1969 said there was other things added to in case of reversals etc?
If so I use a variation of these servants all the time and have them assigned to separate keys 'B' and 'Lay', I've always though that was much cleaner and certainly an easier way than trying to put them together and having both start with say 'A' key

But if people want it on one key I can take a look and see how/if it can be done
Once the framework is done to use both in the same file using servant context It'll literally be one step away from being able to convert it to a fully automated bot. Not bad, I love it.... it feels like you planted the seed (original servant) Peter watered it (videos) and out blossoms Archery :D
jghinge
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Hi, On the first race I tried the servant on today the price went to my lay price and reversed. It did not place a back bet prior to the lay bet being taken and when the price reversed it did not put any kind of back bet in place, I traded out manually.
It then placed various random bets in play when I had greened up pre race which it did yesterday. Still seems to be a few issues at the moment unfortunately.

Regards

Jeff
Archery1969
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jghinge wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:51 pm
Hi, On the first race I tried the servant on today the price went to my lay price and reversed. It did not place a back bet prior to the lay bet being taken and when the price reversed it did not put any kind of back bet in place, I traded out manually.
It then placed various random bets in play when I had greened up pre race which it did yesterday. Still seems to be a few issues at the moment unfortunately.

Regards

Jeff
Yeah, stop using it. Will have to wait until Dallas perhaps comes along with a solution.
jghinge
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Seems you are very close which is way beyond me at the moment. Do you by any change have a copy of the addition you put in the original one which you posted to trade out on a reversal or if the lay bet was missed as I am struggling to find some of the rules in the software please?

Thanks
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censura
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Hi Hope someone can help - so i downloaded the 1st post servants lay and back, I imported the 2 and then tried to amend the default amount laid from 100 to 10 so I first opened the lay to edit went to conditions but there were none? i read through the forum and it said the conditions only need to be one or other so I found they back and conditions I then went and amended anyway what ever I do it selects £2 each time?
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censura
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Hi i am testing this trap betting - so i have added the 2 scripts and tried to run them but if I place a bet I get window showing 1/1 back 0/1 lay should it not be 1/1 & 1/1

also the default is £100 but it applies £2 everytime

Hoe someone can enlighten me thank you
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Dallas
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censura wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:20 pm
Hi Hope someone can help - so i downloaded the 1st post servants lay and back, I imported the 2 and then tried to amend the default amount laid from 100 to 10 so I first opened the lay to edit went to conditions but there were none? i read through the forum and it said the conditions only need to be one or other so I found they back and conditions I then went and amended anyway what ever I do it selects £2 each time?
They use 'Servant Context' as your entry stake so whatever preset stake you have selected on that runner at the time you start it.

The conditions only test for the money waiting
Is that what you wanted to change?
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Dallas
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censura wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:54 pm
Hi i am testing this trap betting - so i have added the 2 scripts and tried to run them but if I place a bet I get window showing 1/1 back 0/1 lay should it not be 1/1 & 1/1

also the default is £100 but it applies £2 everytime

Hoe someone can enlighten me thank you
If you start the back bet servant it will place a back bet at the price you were pointing at so the back rule will show as 1/1 (triggered 1 of 1 times it was armed for)
The lay rule will initially show 0/1 (as it won't have triggered until the price reaches the odds you placed the back bet at)
As soon as it triggers it will also show 1/1

The default £100 is the money waiting to be matched at the best price once the touch price gets to your bet, the stake it uses is whatever pre-set stake you have selected at the time its started, so sounds like you have your £2 default stake chosen in the pre-set area
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gstar1975
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Dallas wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:02 pm
censura wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:54 pm
Hi i am testing this trap betting - so i have added the 2 scripts and tried to run them but if I place a bet I get window showing 1/1 back 0/1 lay should it not be 1/1 & 1/1

also the default is £100 but it applies £2 everytime

Hoe someone can enlighten me thank you
If you start the back bet servant it will place a back bet at the price you were pointing at so the back rule will show as 1/1 (triggered 1 of 1 times it was armed for)
The lay rule will initially show 0/1 (as it won't have triggered until the price reaches the odds you placed the back bet at)
As soon as it triggers it will also show 1/1

The default £100 is the money waiting to be matched at the best price once the touch price gets to your bet, the stake it uses is whatever pre-set stake you have selected at the time its started, so sounds like you have your £2 default stake chosen in the pre-set area
Hi Dallas

Once I have pressed the Alt + (whatever button I have assigned the servant to) do I have to press the combination again whenever I want to place another trade on the same runner? Or does the Servant "stay on" and I only have to click say the left mouse button when its Green?
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Dallas
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gstar1975 wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:17 am
Dallas wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:02 pm
censura wrote:
Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:54 pm
Hi i am testing this trap betting - so i have added the 2 scripts and tried to run them but if I place a bet I get window showing 1/1 back 0/1 lay should it not be 1/1 & 1/1

also the default is £100 but it applies £2 everytime

Hoe someone can enlighten me thank you
If you start the back bet servant it will place a back bet at the price you were pointing at so the back rule will show as 1/1 (triggered 1 of 1 times it was armed for)
The lay rule will initially show 0/1 (as it won't have triggered until the price reaches the odds you placed the back bet at)
As soon as it triggers it will also show 1/1

The default £100 is the money waiting to be matched at the best price once the touch price gets to your bet, the stake it uses is whatever pre-set stake you have selected at the time its started, so sounds like you have your £2 default stake chosen in the pre-set area
Hi Dallas

Once I have pressed the Alt + (whatever button I have assigned the servant to) do I have to press the combination again whenever I want to place another trade on the same runner? Or does the Servant "stay on" and I only have to click say the left mouse button when its Green?
Each time its started it effectively resets itself so will place a new bet at the odds you choose and set the 'Trap'
The previous bet will remain but just become an ordinary bet, which you need to cancel manually or add a rule to cancel it for you
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gstar1975
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:26 pm
gstar1975 wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:17 am
Dallas wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:02 pm


If you start the back bet servant it will place a back bet at the price you were pointing at so the back rule will show as 1/1 (triggered 1 of 1 times it was armed for)
The lay rule will initially show 0/1 (as it won't have triggered until the price reaches the odds you placed the back bet at)
As soon as it triggers it will also show 1/1

The default £100 is the money waiting to be matched at the best price once the touch price gets to your bet, the stake it uses is whatever pre-set stake you have selected at the time its started, so sounds like you have your £2 default stake chosen in the pre-set area
Hi Dallas

Once I have pressed the Alt + (whatever button I have assigned the servant to) do I have to press the combination again whenever I want to place another trade on the same runner? Or does the Servant "stay on" and I only have to click say the left mouse button when its Green?
Each time its started it effectively resets itself so will place a new bet at the odds you choose and set the 'Trap'
The previous bet will remain but just become an ordinary bet, which you need to cancel manually or add a rule to cancel it for you
What if I place a bet using the Servant shortcut "Alt+Left Click" then cancel the bet and it stays Green, if I now just left click will it be a trap bet or a normal bet?
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