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dsaunders1234
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I’d looked at scalping previously but everything I read used the term picking up pennies in front of a steam roller so glad it’s an option that could work. I agree with the idea of being right for a bit of time as opposed to right for a whole match
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Kai
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dsaunders1234 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:24 pm
I’d looked at scalping previously but everything I read used the term picking up pennies in front of a steam roller so glad it’s an option that could work.
There's quite a few misconceptions around trading

Even if you were collecting smaller amounts it's possible to reinvest those on the same match to try and compound your winnings, very low prices regularly get overturned late in matches

But you can't do it every match or you're just going to break even! You can always browse Youtube for a bit of inspiration as well, if you look for ladder videos specifically like the one above
dsaunders1234
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Would you look to scalp the match odds or the under markets? I monitored the under 2.5 goals at 1-1 in the man United match as I didn’t see the winner coming and was surprised how quickly the odds fell. I know trading one goal ahead is riskier.
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Kai
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People usually scalp O/U markets, with the current under in the 2nd half getting decent volume, while MO is better suited for swing trading imho

But as with anything you always have to make sure your reward outweighs your risk
dsaunders1234
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Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:08 pm
Kai wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:52 pm
Idk, very hard to compare speculative preoff markets with inplay markets which are directly dictated by on-pitch events and time decay.

Generally the closer it gets to kickoff the more accurate the prices tend to be. Yet, a match can begin in a way that completely defies market expectations. The more wrong the market was the faster it tries to adjust before time decay kicks in.

That's probably where the first opportunity lies, although I always thought that scalping was a decent starting point. It's still bread & butter for a lot of traders.
I agree scalping is the place to start, I started trying to predict football match outcomes and couldn't then the lightbulb moment for me was why I don't I try to be right for a shorter space of time and build out over.

Scalping is still massive part of my armoury and should be in anyones football portfolio. I'd argue it's easier than scalping any other sport as with time decay you can build confidence knowing the market direction especially in the over/Under markets.
Do you scalp with fast pictures? Or just a regular stream?
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dsaunders1234 wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2025 11:07 pm
Michael5482 wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:08 pm
Kai wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:52 pm
Idk, very hard to compare speculative preoff markets with inplay markets which are directly dictated by on-pitch events and time decay.

Generally the closer it gets to kickoff the more accurate the prices tend to be. Yet, a match can begin in a way that completely defies market expectations. The more wrong the market was the faster it tries to adjust before time decay kicks in.

That's probably where the first opportunity lies, although I always thought that scalping was a decent starting point. It's still bread & butter for a lot of traders.
I agree scalping is the place to start, I started trying to predict football match outcomes and couldn't then the lightbulb moment for me was why I don't I try to be right for a shorter space of time and build out over.

Scalping is still massive part of my armoury and should be in anyones football portfolio. I'd argue it's easier than scalping any other sport as with time decay you can build confidence knowing the market direction especially in the over/Under markets.
Do you scalp with fast pictures? Or just a regular stream?
I use low latency streams. If you live in the UK scalp using an analogue radio for Premier League games there is no delay in commentary people with fast pics will have an advantage as they can anticipate better but the radio is an excellent resource and never be underestimated or discounted.

You can still scalp with 5-7 second picture delays but need to build up to the and have excellent anticipation skills but you can build that over time.

If you're going to scalp Overs for example and lay them scalping I'd suggest starting by laying with liability so if a goal goes against you'll have a fixed loss more or less and not over exposing yourself.
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frankbet
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is there a device where they broadcast the match at low latency? or what do you think is the best thing to do?
I use the book streams, but obviously in matches where you need sky/dazn this is not possible, besides sky/dazn is there something faster?
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