PSG can take the game as a training and have fun and let it go easy, they still can crush St.Etienne as not being under pressureKafkaesque wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:52 pmFrench football returning for one only. With the cup final. Insane in itself, and the price of 1.14 seems just as insane to me.
PSG should favs and clear favs at that, but surely, surely not to the tune of 88% chance of winning in 90 minutes. How the mentality on both sides is in a long-since cancelled season one-off has to be complete guesswork. If anything I'd suspect Saint Etienne has been under a training regime with the exact purpose of peaking for this exact match. Whereas PSG will care much less about this one, and their training regime is - rightly so - aimed towards peaking in a few weeks time, when the Champions League restarts. The one question mark for me is whether Saint Etienne have enough players with the discipline to get ready for this one and only match post lockdown. I'll be diving in now, seeing if I can dig anything up on Saint Etienne's build-up and preparation. For now I'm baffled!
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"As training"...."have fun"...."still can"
Set against 88% of happening does not compute.
Of course "they still can" at that price. Not really the point.
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If anyone's got football automations running, heads up. Whoever's got the finger on the trigger at BF has been drinking. Parma-Atalanta just started and has been suspended. Inter-Napoli due to start in about two hours has been put inplay instead
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I wondered why the Parma game was suspended and not in play, Betfair seem to be run by clowns these days. 7 minutes in and the Inter game still left in playKafkaesque wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:35 pmIf anyone's got football automations running, heads up. Whoever's got the finger on the trigger at BF has been drinking. Parma-Atalanta just started and has been suspended. Inter-Napoli due to start in about two hours has been put inplay instead
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Drinkring AND doing drugs it would seem Big chance in Parma - Atalanta. The Inter match was duely suspended, and then put back inplayspreadbetting wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:36 pmI wondered why the Parma game was suspended and not in play, Betfair seem to be run by clowns these days. 7 minutes in and the Inter game still left in playKafkaesque wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:35 pmIf anyone's got football automations running, heads up. Whoever's got the finger on the trigger at BF has been drinking. Parma-Atalanta just started and has been suspended. Inter-Napoli due to start in about two hours has been put inplay instead
The incompetence is staggering.Kafkaesque wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:35 pmIf anyone's got football automations running, heads up. Whoever's got the finger on the trigger at BF has been drinking. Parma-Atalanta just started and has been suspended. Inter-Napoli due to start in about two hours has been put inplay instead
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Would be interesting to know what % of customers this affected, probably very low. It won't bother straight punters much, it won't bother traders who don't do football, or those who trade football but don't do games like this. Even here I don't suppose it's affect that many. Staggering incompetence really only applies to things that were staggeringly important to start with.deestar wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:46 pmThe incompetence is staggering.Kafkaesque wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:35 pmIf anyone's got football automations running, heads up. Whoever's got the finger on the trigger at BF has been drinking. Parma-Atalanta just started and has been suspended. Inter-Napoli due to start in about two hours has been put inplay instead
I'm not defending it, just working out of it's incompetence or just that it's not a big priority in the first place. Maybe the staff involved were averting a bigger problem that kept more clients happy, that would be staggering competence? And not enough staff on call for simultaneous problems would be just how most places are, even banks. It's not good but it's never really possible to know what's happened and why.
I don't agree with your premise that for something to be staggeringly incompetent it needs to be important to lots of people. Although I also think you under estimate the number of players in these markets (Italian Serie A). I'd hazard a guess that at that time of day it was in the top 3 of vol traded markets in play. Regardless of the numbers, it strikes me as staggering incompetence that they can completely mix up the two games. The key issue here is that there seems to be no fail safe in their processes regardless of major or minor market. I would have thought that was pretty fundamental to their business model of, you know, offering markets!ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:36 amWould be interesting to know what % of customers this affected, probably very low. It won't bother straight punters much, it won't bother traders who don't do football, or those who trade football but don't do games like this. Even here I don't suppose it's affect that many. Staggering incompetence really only applies to things that were staggeringly important to start with.deestar wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:46 pmThe incompetence is staggering.Kafkaesque wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:35 pmIf anyone's got football automations running, heads up. Whoever's got the finger on the trigger at BF has been drinking. Parma-Atalanta just started and has been suspended. Inter-Napoli due to start in about two hours has been put inplay instead
I'm not defending it, just working out of it's incompetence or just that it's not a big priority in the first place. Maybe the staff involved were averting a bigger problem that kept more clients happy, that would be staggering competence? And not enough staff on call for simultaneous problems would be just how most places are, even banks. It's not good but it's never really possible to know what's happened and why.
In this case they were literally managing the Inter game when there were close chances in the Parma game. And it lasted for a good 15-20 minutes. Anyone with a passing interest in the matches could see the error, it took the exchange c.20 minutes to wake up and correct the problem (at least suspend the Inter match). If I was in charge i'd be pretty embarrassed.
What else was going on at the time of the Parma v Atalanta?ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:36 amWould be interesting to know what % of customers this affected, probably very low. It won't bother straight punters much, it won't bother traders who don't do football, or those who trade football but don't do games like this. Even here I don't suppose it's affect that many. Staggering incompetence really only applies to things that were staggeringly important to start with.deestar wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:46 pmThe incompetence is staggering.Kafkaesque wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:35 pmIf anyone's got football automations running, heads up. Whoever's got the finger on the trigger at BF has been drinking. Parma-Atalanta just started and has been suspended. Inter-Napoli due to start in about two hours has been put inplay instead
I'm not defending it, just working out of it's incompetence or just that it's not a big priority in the first place. Maybe the staff involved were averting a bigger problem that kept more clients happy, that would be staggering competence? And not enough staff on call for simultaneous problems would be just how most places are, even banks. It's not good but it's never really possible to know what's happened and why.
It was the market with the highest volume on yesterday's events at the time of kicking off
To suggest it wasn't incompetent because BF had more important things to do is total shite
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Turning the wrong market in play to avert a bigger problem! I know you want to defend Betfair and keep those freebies coming but you need to give your tongue a break sometimes, Shaun.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:36 am[
I'm not defending it, just working out of it's incompetence or just that it's not a big priority in the first place. Maybe the staff involved were averting a bigger problem that kept more clients happy, that would be staggering competence? And not enough staff on call for simultaneous problems would be just how most places are, even banks. It's not good but it's never really possible to know what's happened and why.
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Sorry Shaun but I cannot agree that staggering incompetence is dependant upon staggering importance. If I sat an A level exam for VBA Coding I would be shown up as "staggeringly incompetent" but in no way would knowledge of VBA Coding be considered "staggeringly important"! The two are mutually exclusive. To mix the management of two events is clearly a show of incompetence the only question is is it staggeringly so? I believe it is. I was in the financial industry and had to conform initially with FSA 1986 and the evolution of compliance within that industry. If a stockbroker or other provided a service to the low standard Betfair does the Regulators would be down on them like a ton of bricks with a very heavy fine and they would have to quickly implement better systems/markets or be out of business.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:36 amWould be interesting to know what % of customers this affected, probably very low. It won't bother straight punters much, it won't bother traders who don't do football, or those who trade football but don't do games like this. Even here I don't suppose it's affect that many. Staggering incompetence really only applies to things that were staggeringly important to start with.