Is there Football Courtsiding ??
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Mobile signals fail at large sporting events because you have 10,000s of people (and therefore phones) in a very small space. I very much doubt the stadiums have reason to care enough about 'pitchsiding' to spend money on installing blockers just to prevent the practise.
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Personally I see pitchsiding at football to be prohibitively complex.
Obviously you can't simply trade based on goals/pens etc due to the 6-second delay, so you would have to manage positions towards the end of the match based on attacks/corners etc which on a mobile phone I can imagine being very stressful and full or risk.
Obviously you can't simply trade based on goals/pens etc due to the 6-second delay, so you would have to manage positions towards the end of the match based on attacks/corners etc which on a mobile phone I can imagine being very stressful and full or risk.
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I was under the impression that the people pitchsiding were beating the delay which was the point. The Betfair suspension monkey is sat in Betfair's lair somewhere in his darkened cell who is then prone to a slight delay him/herself. Obviously they're not watching Sky sports but a very slight delay none the less of the time it takes for a goal to be scored and a signal (whatever that medium may be) to be sent. I thought the people pitchsiding who are physically at the game can beat that suspension?jameegray1 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:38 amPersonally I see pitchsiding at football to be prohibitively complex.
Obviously you can't simply trade based on goals/pens etc due to the 6-second delay, so you would have to manage positions towards the end of the match based on attacks/corners etc which on a mobile phone I can imagine being very stressful and full or risk.
Naturally in the lower leagues I would imagine, I've watched games where the suspension monkey suspends the game every 60s if a player so much as farts.
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Dont shoot the messenger:
"A football fan has detailed his experience on Saturday afternoon during Hull City's 2-1 win over Reading, where he was threatened with being thrown out of the ground for texting during the match.
Hull fan Daniel Mawer took to Twitter to explain in a thread how someone in plain clothing came up to him to warn him not to text.
According to the 'skint northerner' he was warned he could be thrown out of the ground because his texts might be informing gamblers of insider information of what was going on, utterly bizarre.
The EFL says Mr Mawer was spoken to as part of spot checks into unauthorised data gathering at matches."
"A football fan has detailed his experience on Saturday afternoon during Hull City's 2-1 win over Reading, where he was threatened with being thrown out of the ground for texting during the match.
Hull fan Daniel Mawer took to Twitter to explain in a thread how someone in plain clothing came up to him to warn him not to text.
According to the 'skint northerner' he was warned he could be thrown out of the ground because his texts might be informing gamblers of insider information of what was going on, utterly bizarre.
The EFL says Mr Mawer was spoken to as part of spot checks into unauthorised data gathering at matches."
Not too long ago a forum user posted a video of a room upstairs at Wimbledon where 'data' was being gathered in an industrial manner. We know that downstairs a traditional courtsider with a hat and clicker would have been 'dealt with' . I think that courtsiding is now just an industry and another revenue stream for venues who must now protect that commodity. What is disingenuous is the way it is dealt with as if it is the courtsiding that is the immoral practice when it is an individual on the terrace - but legitimate business in a box hired for the privilege - when the truth is it is more akin to paying for tv rights and not allowing someone who has not paid for them to broadcast - which we would more readily understand.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:39 amDont shoot the messenger:
"A football fan has detailed his experience on Saturday afternoon during Hull City's 2-1 win over Reading, where he was threatened with being thrown out of the ground for texting during the match.
Hull fan Daniel Mawer took to Twitter to explain in a thread how someone in plain clothing came up to him to warn him not to text.
According to the 'skint northerner' he was warned he could be thrown out of the ground because his texts might be informing gamblers of insider information of what was going on, utterly bizarre.
The EFL says Mr Mawer was spoken to as part of spot checks into unauthorised data gathering at matches."
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This is news to me but apparently the Football Data Co in collaboration with the UK Leagues and its Clubs has COMSEC security personnel operating at most games who are authorised to eject members of the public who they believe are gathering match data and/or betting using electronic devices.Jukebox wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:11 amNot too long ago a forum user posted a video of a room upstairs at Wimbledon where 'data' was being gathered in an industrial manner. We know that downstairs a traditional courtsider with a hat and clicker would have been 'dealt with' . I think that courtsiding is now just an industry and another revenue stream for venues who must now protect that commodity. What is disingenuous is the way it is dealt with as if it is the courtsiding that is the immoral practice when it is an individual on the terrace - but legitimate business in a box hired for the privilege - when the truth is it is more akin to paying for tv rights and not allowing someone who has not paid for them to broadcast - which we would more readily understand.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:39 amDont shoot the messenger:
"A football fan has detailed his experience on Saturday afternoon during Hull City's 2-1 win over Reading, where he was threatened with being thrown out of the ground for texting during the match.
Hull fan Daniel Mawer took to Twitter to explain in a thread how someone in plain clothing came up to him to warn him not to text.
According to the 'skint northerner' he was warned he could be thrown out of the ground because his texts might be informing gamblers of insider information of what was going on, utterly bizarre.
The EFL says Mr Mawer was spoken to as part of spot checks into unauthorised data gathering at matches."
I'm suggesting that their reason is not to protect the average punter or the integrity of the game - but because some group in a box has paid heavily for exclusive access.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:34 amThis is news to me but apparently the Football Data Co in collaboration with the UK Leagues and its Clubs has COMSEC security personnel operating at most games who are authorised to eject members of the public who they believe are gathering match data and/or betting using electronic devices.Jukebox wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:11 amNot too long ago a forum user posted a video of a room upstairs at Wimbledon where 'data' was being gathered in an industrial manner. We know that downstairs a traditional courtsider with a hat and clicker would have been 'dealt with' . I think that courtsiding is now just an industry and another revenue stream for venues who must now protect that commodity. What is disingenuous is the way it is dealt with as if it is the courtsiding that is the immoral practice when it is an individual on the terrace - but legitimate business in a box hired for the privilege - when the truth is it is more akin to paying for tv rights and not allowing someone who has not paid for them to broadcast - which we would more readily understand.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:39 amDont shoot the messenger:
"A football fan has detailed his experience on Saturday afternoon during Hull City's 2-1 win over Reading, where he was threatened with being thrown out of the ground for texting during the match.
Hull fan Daniel Mawer took to Twitter to explain in a thread how someone in plain clothing came up to him to warn him not to text.
According to the 'skint northerner' he was warned he could be thrown out of the ground because his texts might be informing gamblers of insider information of what was going on, utterly bizarre.
The EFL says Mr Mawer was spoken to as part of spot checks into unauthorised data gathering at matches."
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Agreed.Jukebox wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:41 amI'm suggesting that their reason is not to protect the average punter or the integrity of the game - but because some group in a box has paid heavily for exclusive access.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:34 amThis is news to me but apparently the Football Data Co in collaboration with the UK Leagues and its Clubs has COMSEC security personnel operating at most games who are authorised to eject members of the public who they believe are gathering match data and/or betting using electronic devices.Jukebox wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:11 am
Not too long ago a forum user posted a video of a room upstairs at Wimbledon where 'data' was being gathered in an industrial manner. We know that downstairs a traditional courtsider with a hat and clicker would have been 'dealt with' . I think that courtsiding is now just an industry and another revenue stream for venues who must now protect that commodity. What is disingenuous is the way it is dealt with as if it is the courtsiding that is the immoral practice when it is an individual on the terrace - but legitimate business in a box hired for the privilege - when the truth is it is more akin to paying for tv rights and not allowing someone who has not paid for them to broadcast - which we would more readily understand.
Think this might be the video being referred toArchery1969 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:49 amAgreed.Jukebox wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:41 amI'm suggesting that their reason is not to protect the average punter or the integrity of the game - but because some group in a box has paid heavily for exclusive access.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:34 am
This is news to me but apparently the Football Data Co in collaboration with the UK Leagues and its Clubs has COMSEC security personnel operating at most games who are authorised to eject members of the public who they believe are gathering match data and/or betting using electronic devices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6uKtMAMkhY