IPT - Ideas spawned from the data experience

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ODPaul82
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If you hover over the information icon above each of them on the scanner it explains how they're derived
I'm pretty sure they are detailed in a video but just in case they aren't I don't want to publicly say as it's still propiretary information how they're calculated.
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jimibt wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:09 am
Euler wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:08 am
A Bet Angel user has created / is creating a more complex version of this sort of thing. I'll chat to him and see if he wants to join in. It will be a publically available product.

is this Lee's InplayKing??
That's me 🤣
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footysystems wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:13 pm
jimibt wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:09 am
Euler wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:08 am
A Bet Angel user has created / is creating a more complex version of this sort of thing. I'll chat to him and see if he wants to join in. It will be a publically available product.

is this Lee's InplayKing??
That's me 🤣
well, hello -discovered IPK a while ago and it stuck in my mind... got a feeling you may well be the one to add a LOT to this thread.. looking fwd :D
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Yes can do but it's not as easy as it looks :shock:
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The trouble is you have to be very choosy what you play in my experience. There are far to many pitfalls just trading inplay football games. I get data on every single match each day that is played, it almost overkill.
What I found over the years is there are teams that are just that bad no matter how many DA SOT and so on they just cannot score BUT the rest of the world knows that too. It's a very fine line between profit and loss. But having said that would be great to see this thread through up some ideas on how the main man pulls it off ??
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If I were him then it would be watching the game alongside utilising pre-match research and in-play stats, a shot off-target in data doesn't say whether it was a close shot by the post or the player taking aim at a seagull in Row Z.

Also believing in their process & staying disciplined with proper risk management/staking.
There will be red screens that aren't shown, red screens don't sell courses.
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Ok let's have a go 😊 pre match my ratings tell me Cremonise are well ahead of Virtus currently well ahead inplay Cremonise.

2.28 on betfair ✅
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There is the goal price into 1.28 :D
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ODPaul82 wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 3:24 pm
If I were him then it would be watching the game alongside utilising pre-match research and in-play stats, a shot off-target in data doesn't say whether it was a close shot by the post or the player taking aim at a seagull in Row Z.
are you sure that some close misses make a goal much more likely than a couple shots into Row Z?
The player/team suddenly lost their skill or confidence and much more likely to miss the next chance as well?
Think intent of the teams is the main factor and Psychoff was somewhat describing that as well in the intterview i saw
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That's my exact point, if a team is hitting & hoping then that will still just be shown as a shot in data
Data is quantifiable but doesn't contain qualative information.
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ODPaul82 wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:03 pm
That's my exact point, if a team is hitting & hoping then that will still just be shown as a shot in data
Data is quantifiable but doesn't contain qualative information.
based on that observation, do you think that tracking the odds and real-time stats on a minute by minute basis would allow a better peek at the qualatitive aspect. in a contrived example, i'm thinking of the score being 1-0 at half time and the odds on the ou naturally decaying, but then after a sustained period of high PI's, the odds remain static. or conversely, the same scenario, except the PI is relatively flat and the decay appears to follow it's standard pattern.

i guess what i'm saying is, it would be nice to chuck around a few building block scenarios (as mentioned in my OP) that when pieced together could provide a risk worthy signal of sorts, even if that signal merely meant *not yet*.. etc
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jimibt wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:55 pm
ODPaul82 wrote:
Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:03 pm
That's my exact point, if a team is hitting & hoping then that will still just be shown as a shot in data
Data is quantifiable but doesn't contain qualative information.
based on that observation, do you think that tracking the odds and real-time stats on a minute by minute basis would allow a better peek at the qualatitive aspect. in a contrived example, i'm thinking of the score being 1-0 at half time and the odds on the ou naturally decaying, but then after a sustained period of high PI's, the odds remain static. or conversely, the same scenario, except the PI is relatively flat and the decay appears to follow it's standard pattern.

i guess what i'm saying is, it would be nice to chuck around a few building block scenarios (as mentioned in my OP) that when pieced together could provide a risk worthy signal of sorts, even if that signal merely meant *not yet*.. etc
One building block that I think can be a good indicator is a team's XG. Obviously it's not perfect but if it's 0-0 and both teams have an XG of over 1 then I would say it's a good indication that a goal more likely to happen than not.
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