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teambulldog wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:08 pm
Thankyou for your help :D :D
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MAGTRADEUK
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I have found that ma crossover charts etc have not been very good .... I feel they lag the current market too much, especially as the volatility picks up you can get whipsaws... IMHO
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MAGTRADEUK wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:24 pm
I have found that ma crossover charts etc have not been very good .... I feel they lag the current market too much, especially as the volatility picks up you can get whipsaws... IMHO
The Ma indicator has always been a lag indicator. However you can use it for a confirmation.
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:07 pm
MAGTRADEUK wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:24 pm
I have found that ma crossover charts etc have not been very good .... I feel they lag the current market too much, especially as the volatility picks up you can get whipsaws... IMHO
The Ma indicator has always been a lag indicator. However you can use it for a confirmation.
altho VWAP is also a lagging indicator, having compared the two, I feel that VWAP seems to present a slightly more timely confirmation. that said, that could be down to my settings etc. in short, tool expertise improves thro usage. think back to those throbbing thumbs when first picking up a hammer :D
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jimibt wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:46 am
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:07 pm
MAGTRADEUK wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:24 pm
I have found that ma crossover charts etc have not been very good .... I feel they lag the current market too much, especially as the volatility picks up you can get whipsaws... IMHO
The Ma indicator has always been a lag indicator. However you can use it for a confirmation.
altho VWAP is also a lagging indicator, having compared the two, I feel that VWAP seems to present a slightly more timely confirmation. that said, that could be down to my settings etc. in short, tool expertise improves thro usage. think back to those throbbing thumbs when first picking up a hammer :D
Couldn’t agree more with the latter comment!

I remember learning divergence, that felt like being hit on the head with a hammer!
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Be nice to be able to track MA/SMA/ EMA via SV's/History lists ( a couple more history lists would be nice too-disk/memory thrashing notwithstanding-say 15? :P ). I can see how you can do it in Excel but prefer doing it all in BA as I find doing it in excel via formulas a little clunky.. I can't see how you could currently do it using History/calculated lists-specially if you wanted to weight the latest numbers versus earlier numbers , but maybe its my chemo brain and I have missed a trick.On that front its taking me too long to learn Python too :) :?
All the best to you all-am still greatly enjoying reading this forum-thanks :D :mrgreen:
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mcgoo wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:44 am
Be nice to be able to track MA/SMA/ EMA via SV's/History lists ( a couple more history lists would be nice too-disk/memory thrashing notwithstanding-say 15? :P ). I can see how you can do it in Excel but prefer doing it all in BA as I find doing it in excel via formulas a little clunky.. I can't see how you could currently do it using History/calculated lists-specially if you wanted to weight the latest numbers versus earlier numbers , but maybe its my chemo brain and I have missed a trick.On that front its taking me too long to learn Python too :) :?
All the best to you all-am still greatly enjoying reading this forum-thanks :D :mrgreen:
You lost me at excel 🤣🤣🤣
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What is Excel?
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Trader724 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:35 am
What is Excel?
I thought it was short for excellent! ;)
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Excelsior.
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Trader724 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:35 am
What is Excel?
It's that spreadsheet app that everyone lies about on their job application.

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Hi Mcgoo

You can do this in Guardian if you want to.
here's a rough explanation (for 30 seconds moving average) :


For each price => add to total_price
counter = counter + 1
avg_price = total_price / counter
store in history list
.
.
.up to price 30


for prices beyond 30 seconds :
total_price = total_price * (29/30)
total_price = total_price + price
avg_price = total_price / 30
store in history list

Hope that helps !!!!!
I can probably post an example rule if that's not clear, but might be in a few days' time
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mcgoo wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:44 am
I can't see how you could currently do it using History/calculated lists-specially if you wanted to weight the latest numbers versus earlier numbers , but maybe its my chemo brain and I have missed a trick.On that front its taking me too long to learn Python too :) :?
All the best to you all-am still greatly enjoying reading this forum-thanks :D :mrgreen:
Hope you're well mcgoo :)
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PerthO wrote:
Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:28 am
Hi Mcgoo

You can do this in Guardian if you want to.
here's a rough explanation (for 30 seconds moving average) :


For each price => add to total_price
counter = counter + 1
avg_price = total_price / counter
store in history list
.
.
.up to price 30


for prices beyond 30 seconds :
total_price = total_price * (29/30)
total_price = total_price + price
avg_price = total_price / 30
store in history list

Hope that helps !!!!!
I can probably post an example rule if that's not clear, but might be in a few days' time
That looks very interesting PerthO. Thanks for that. ..though I might need an example indeed to get my head around it properly. Then I can try calculate the EMA vs MA as well. (Chemo does fog the brain something fierce so it takes me a while to read things and think them through :? ) Cheers for the help
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