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Kai
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gazuty wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:02 am
@Kai - be interested if you have any views on this article- https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/worl ... kovic.html
Obviously can't speak for Serbians even though I do have many Serb friends but I think the article sums it up well enough.

Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, there are a lot of vocal anti-vaxers in the region and the whole lockdown periods did not go well in Serbia in particular. I think people overall take their personal freedoms very seriously and just see it as another form of oppression. I've seen Serbian users reading this thread so I'd rather leave it to them to expand on that should they wish to.

Clearly, for anti-vaxers this basically makes Novak a martyr so this will only serve to cement his champion status in their eyes, like someone already pointed out in the thread earlier. Don't really have much of an opinion/interest personally on the drama, been blown way out of proportion and doesn't reflect well on anyone involved, I think either way a decision needed to be reached very quickly, the only tennis drama that deserves this type of media attention is the Peng Shuai one for me.

I'm sure top athletes get away with stuff all the time, Novak probably didn't think it was going to be a big deal at all.
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Djokovic is a conspiracy theorist and believes in crackpot science. Most conspiracy theorists are anti-vax so its not surprising he doesn't want to get a vaccine. Again though this has got nothing to do with personal beliefs or his stance on getting the jab. It boils down to the fact that he's been caught out in more than one lie so I don't see what option the Aussie government had other than to cancel his visa.

If he is out of the tournament it might be a good thing for him. Poor preparation probably means he's no longer the favourite; he'd be saved the wrath of the fans and he wouldn't have to sit in front of the media and answer questions. Plus he can play the victim and will have extra motivation for the rest of the slams. (Apart from the French :D )
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@ari_shapiro wrote:I’ll always remember Roger Federer for his legendary consistency, Rafael Nadal for his clay court mastery, Andy Murray for his heart and soul prowess, and Novak Djokovic for visiting Australia unvaccinated during COVID-19 and turning it into a miserable and unnecessary shit show.
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Penny for the thoughts of the remaining players in the draw who have Covid exemptions
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Euler wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:11 pm
@ari_shapiro wrote:I’ll always remember Roger Federer for his legendary consistency, Rafael Nadal for his clay court mastery, Andy Murray for his heart and soul prowess, and Novak Djokovic for visiting Australia unvaccinated during COVID-19 and turning it into a miserable and unnecessary shit show.
That made chortle! :-)
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Euler wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:11 pm
@ari_shapiro wrote:I’ll always remember Roger Federer for his legendary consistency, Rafael Nadal for his clay court mastery, Andy Murray for his heart and soul prowess, and Novak Djokovic for visiting Australia unvaccinated during COVID-19 and turning it into a miserable and unnecessary shit show.
I'll just remember him for being a twit. :)
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gazuty wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:20 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:01 pm
Thanks for that Gaz.

I spent about a half an hour this morning trying to find that info and couldn't!
No worries.

I agree with Dallas - I think the Djoker is in for a very hostile reception in Melbourne (always a sad spectacle in sport when a player wins a match and is booed off court - but I suspect this will reguarly happen). (Of course, there has always been a degree of abrasiveness to his character over a long period but this will probably take things to a whole new level). Over the past few years he has been in local advertisements, but outside his global sponsors, I can't see any Australian corporates touching him with a barge pole this time around. The major sponsors will really be hoping for an upset in the early rounds, I can't imagine anyone wants to stand next to him on the victory dais. Will just be a bad situation all round.
IMHO, the main problem with ALL sports these days is caused, on the whole, by people like us - GAMBLERS! There is FAR TOO MUCH 'money' in sport these days! "Back in the day", you could only bet on the 'Footie' and the 'Ossies' - (Horses). These days, it seems that you can bet on whether or not a pair of flys will produce more boy flys than girl flys!

Human nature is geared towards being the best/making the most money - so issus like this are BOUND to arise....
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Kai wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:09 pm
Obviously can't speak for Serbians even though I do have many Serb friends but I think the article sums it up well enough.
Thanks Kai - always appreciate and value your perspectives.
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:55 pm
Euler wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:11 pm
@ari_shapiro wrote:I’ll always remember Roger Federer for his legendary consistency, Rafael Nadal for his clay court mastery, Andy Murray for his heart and soul prowess, and Novak Djokovic for visiting Australia unvaccinated during COVID-19 and turning it into a miserable and unnecessary shit show.
I'll just remember him for being a twit. :)

He'll be known as Novak Novax for a while to come...
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The Australian government has described Novak Djokovic as a..... you can finish the sentence yourself. :D
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bennyboy351 wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:13 pm

IMHO, the main problem with ALL sports these days is caused, on the whole, by people like us - GAMBLERS! ....
It's not so much the gambling money, its that sport is just a sideshow for marketing, advertising and hospitality. Does anyone actually care who wins these never-ending pointless circuses?
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:22 pm
bennyboy351 wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:13 pm

IMHO, the main problem with ALL sports these days is caused, on the whole, by people like us - GAMBLERS! ....
It's not so much the gambling money, its that sport is just a sideshow for marketing, advertising and hospitality. Does anyone actually care who wins these never-ending pointless circuses?
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Of course they do. For some the glory of their sporting hero is their glory too.
Is it all worthless froth? Not sure about that Shaun. Humanity is pretty complex. You could (perhaps) suggest that the energy people devote to their sporting heroes might be better directed elsewhere. But I wouldn't like to try to convince fans that's a good idea.
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I get that, I was trying to say that when there were major events a few times a year they seemed to matter more. These days there's always something on somewhere and it's devalued it all. The aus open is big, but it's the same people playing each other every week so only the name is big. The actual tennis is just the usual A vs B.
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Novax hearing underway.. the judge has said he expects this to be finished by lunchtime
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