Tennis Detailed Stats

[Euler]

Does anybody have the average number of points in a match by tournament, or even just the Grand Slams?

[ODPaul82]

I don't, bit of a google brought back the following link, hopefully it shares
If it doesn't in 2017 Wimbledon ATP had on average 192 with std dev of 72
2017 US Open had avg of 221 with std dev of 68
2017 French Open had avg of 181 with std dev of 66

https://catsstats.timchartier.com/uncat ... am-tennis/

I'd have personally thought clay would have had a higher amount being slower surface

[Euler]

I'd have personally thought clay would have had a higher amount being slower surface

You would have thought so. That looks wrong.

[ODPaul82]

I just purchased ATP 2022 point by point from somewhere (US based site)
Is it ok to share here?

[sniffer66]

I use TP, these are the pre-match stats available.
You can filter by all surfaces or have by individual surface
Timeframes are filterable by 30 days, 90 days, calendar year, 1 year, 2 years, all time or custom range
You can also filter by number of games, limited to current tournament, 10 games or last 30 games

• Service Hold %?
  Return Pts W%?
  BP Save %?
  Break Pt W%?
  Opp Hold %?
  
  Win first set %?
  Service Pts W%?
  1st Serve %?
  1st Serve Pts W%?
  2nd Serve %?
  2nd Serve Pts W%?
  Return Games W%?
  Tie breaks?
  Predicted Holds
  
  Broken in first service game?
  Broken and break back before end of set?
  Get the first break of serve?
  Immediately broken back after breaking?
  Break, broken back before end of set?
  
  Hold serve at 5-4?
  Broken serving at 5-4, lose set?
  Hold serve to win set (any score)?
  Hold serve to stay in set?
  
  Win set 1, wins in 2 sets?
  Won set 1, won match?
  Lost set 1, won set 2?
  Lost set 1, won match?
  Broken first in set 2 after winning set 1?
  Lost set 1, broken 1st set 2, win set 2 (set and break)?
  Lost set 1, get 1st break in set 2?
  
  Won set 1, winner 3 sets?
  Won set 2, winner 3 sets?
  Set 3, break 1st, broken back?
  Set 3, broken 1st, break back?

You also have match records available as well per game, and H2H records (i.e. Win/Loss), once again filterable by filters above.

• Last 10 (all surfaces)
  Last 50 (all surfaces)
  Last 12 months (all s.)
  This year (all surfaces)
  Last 10 (current surface)
  Last 50 (current surface)
  Last 12 months (surface)
  This year (current surface)
  • There's a seperate section where you can review all players playing that day sorted high/low % wise with a fair few of the above stats

These are all the stats I managed to scrape on a h2h basis, each morning

[ODPaul82]

These are all the stats I managed to scrape on a h2h basis, each morning

I think the site is great value for money, I don't normally go into the chat though but the data is a godsend for me.

[ODPaul82]

Does anybody have the average number of points in a match by tournament, or even just the Grand Slams?

I can't upload the 2022 ATP data file I've purchased as it's too large with the actual point by point bits
Event Matches Individual Points Avg PM
Acapulco 30 4325 144.1666667
Adelaide 27 3897 144.3333333
Adelaide 2 27 3955 146.4814815
Antwerp 27 4269 158.1111111
Astana 31 3940 127.0967742
Atlanta 27 3799 140.7037037
ATP Cup 54 7570 140.1851852
Australian Open 126 28856 229.015873
Barcelona 47 6668 141.8723404
Basel 31 4405 142.0967742
Bastad 27 3875 143.5185185
Belgrade 26 4019 154.5769231
Buenos Aires 27 4007 148.4074074
Cincinnati 54 8541 158.1666667
Cordoba 27 3864 143.1111111
Dallas 27 4020 148.8888889
Davis Cup - Group III 116 14238 122.7413793
Davis Cup - Group IV 156 18721 120.0064103
Davis Cup - World Group 62 9424 152
Davis Cup - World Group I 61 8611 141.1639344
Davis Cup - World Group II 69 8634 125.1304348
Delray Beach 27 4001 148.1851852
Doha 27 4002 148.2222222
Dubai 31 4474 144.3225806
Eastbourne 27 4110 152.2222222
Estoril 27 3929 145.5185185
Florence 27 3504 129.7777778
French Open 126 28065 222.7380952
Geneva 27 3883 143.8148148
Gijon 27 3852 142.6666667
Gstaad 27 4074 150.8888889
Halle 31 4598 148.3225806
Hamburg 31 4669 150.6129032
Hertogenbosch 27 4180 154.8148148
Houston 26 3877 149.1153846
Indian Wells 93 14049 151.0645161
Kitzbuhel 27 3965 146.8518519
Laver Cup 3 317 105.6666667
London 31 4683 151.0645161
Los Cabos 27 3712 137.4814815
Lyon 27 4112 152.2962963
Madrid 54 7977 147.7222222
Mallorca 26 3922 150.8461538
Marrakech 31 4502 145.2258065
Marseille 27 4273 158.2592593
Melbourne 26 3974 152.8461538
Metz 27 3793 140.4814815
Miami 95 13286 139.8526316
Monte Carlo 55 8806 160.1090909
Montpellier 27 3836 142.0740741
Montreal 55 8101 147.2909091
Munich 27 3789 140.3333333
N$ Hurlingham 6 675 112.5
Napoli 27 3705 137.2222222
Newport 26 3994 153.6153846
Next Gen Finals 15 2071 138.0666667
Paris 55 7864 142.9818182
Pune 27 4247 157.2962963
Rio de Janeiro 27 3884 143.8518519
Rome 54 8092 149.8518519
Rotterdam 31 4572 147.483871
San Diego 27 3716 137.6296296
Santiago 27 3784 140.1481481
Seoul 26 3576 137.5384615
Sofia 27 4151 153.7407407
Stockholm 27 3965 146.8518519
Stuttgart 26 4036 155.2307692
Sydney 27 3691 136.7037037
Tel Aviv 26 3728 143.3846154
Tokyo 30 4312 143.7333333
Tour Finals 15 2322 154.8
Umag 27 4075 150.9259259
US Open 126 29480 233.968254
Vienna 31 4424 142.7096774
Washington 47 7261 154.4893617
Wimbledon 125 28150 225.2
Winston-Salem 47 6890 146.5957447

[Euler]

Thanks, I shall give you a slobbering kiss if we meet.

[ODPaul82]

Thanks, I shall give you a slobbering kiss if we meet.

I may well kiss you back that's the issue.

WeTransfer link to the main data - hopefully it shares. It was purchased from a site so if it needs to be removed let me know.
Link lasts for two weeks
https://we.tl/t-MR9DDxTJ4O

[Euler]

I asked Bard as ChatGPT wouldn't give me any data.

[sniffer66]

These are all the stats I managed to scrape on a h2h basis, each morning

I think the site is great value for money, I don't normally go into the chat though but the data is a godsend for me.

Same. I respect Paul as well, he's one of the few out there who is the real deal.

[ODPaul82]

These are all the stats I managed to scrape on a h2h basis, each morning

I think the site is great value for money, I don't normally go into the chat though but the data is a godsend for me.

Same. I respect Paul as well, he's one of the few out there who is the real deal.

100%, between him & Peter are what have moulded me the most as a trader

[sniffer66]

I think the site is great value for money, I don't normally go into the chat though but the data is a godsend for me.

Same. I respect Paul as well, he's one of the few out there who is the real deal.

100%, between him & Peter are what have moulded me the most as a trader

I just wish he traded using BA, rather than Geeks. It takes me a while to dial in to what he is doing

[Euler]

It's a legacy thing, I guess as it doesn't even half halve the functionality now or even live scores.

[Euler]

We have looked at providing data as a subset or as part of Bet Angel. But I think you may have seen me mention before that officially licensing the right to distribute it properly is incredibly expensive. So I suspect most people have not even thought about the consequences of unlicensed distribution.