The danger of the Green Up button

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Sushi
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:evil:

I was just in a nice position in the Safina match. £100 either way. Money was slightly offset so I pushed the green up button and God knows what happened but it managed to put me in a loss making position from which I never recovered ruining nearly 2 hours of trading.

Be careful with it!
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Cran
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You probably pressed it twice, three times... more times...

I've done it myself, greened up, bet doesn't show so click it again, then 2 bets go in, so you end up closing position and reopening on the other side, that gets taken and it all goes Pete Tong and you are left in the red...

Only click it once!
andyfuller
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Another option is that you looked at the market went to green up and I am guessing it was a very 'gappy' market'. Between you looking and clicking all the lay or back money vanished and you ended up greening (well redding) up at a price that actually meant you lost instead of winning.

In future you would be better off using the trading profit calculator and using manual close or use the greening coloumn on the ladder.
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LeTiss
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Andy's right

I trade on Tennis lots, and a similar thing happened to me early doors. I needed to lay a selection at 10.5 to make a nice profit, but the 10.5 went & I failed to notice that I was then agreeing to lay the next available price instead - 200/1!!!

My advice is don't use the greening up button 'in play', have the trading calculator open instead
Seabird
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What you can do to stop taking a moving current price to green up is this.

Using the ladder, keep clicking the current price box (I'm doing this in horseracing in-play so it is changing fast) - this transfers the greening price you want to the manual box - then click the manual button and this will fire in a request for the value you want rather than the fast moving current price.
Of course you need to check the manual box is green (and you haven't transferred a quickly moving current price that is red) before clicking the manual button.

Not guaranteed that you'll get the price you want but you won't get something you didn't think you were asking for.

I hope that's clear as it sounds a bit muddy to me. :)

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Sushi
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Cheers all.

I looked at the log to see what actually happened. Turns out that one of the bets exceeded my account balance :?

Surely BA could check that the bets it's about to make are possible before starting to make them.

Anyway, I've learned the hard way (again!).

Obviously from the above responses there is more than one way the Green Up function can shaft you in-play so I'll do it manually in future.

RE: the ladder for in-play tennis trading as opposed to horse racing. I find this very difficult to use in tennis as the bets are generally all over the place and it can be tough to see the current price unless it's a hugely popular match. Am I missing something?
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Bet Angel
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The mechanism for knowing whether your balance is exceeded is to submit a bet and wait for the error unfortunately. There is no way to look this up before placing a bet. Even if there was its possible you would effectively have to make two calls to place a bet and Betfair deliberately restrict the number of calls you can make to 20 so that isn't an ideal solution.

We take on board the comments though.
Sushi
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....but BetAngel knows my balance. It tells me at the bottom of the screen. :?:
escortsnumberone
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when considering greening up in tennis...if player a shows a nice profit but player b shows 0....are the options to green up on the enhanced ladder..current close...and reverse close the best to use....or can you just let the match run and take the normal close position without greening up?
help!!!
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