'No Decision' vs. 'No Contest' - differences please

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Tuco
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I'd be interested in hearing peoples understanding of these two different official results:

'No Decision' (ND) vs. 'No Contest' (NC)
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No contest

Usually occurs when a fighter wins the fight but later tests positive for a banned substance i.e. steroids, marijuana. The reason for this is, that the fighter's performance may have been enhanced due to the banned substances.

No decision

This one can be rather complex:

1) Some jurisdictions, in an attempt to curb gambling on the outcome of fights, enacted laws prohibiting decisions.

2) Some reigning boxing champions, in order to protect their titles, would demand in advance that a bout be "no decision" so that his opponent could not capture his crown by a win on points.

Officially, however, a "no decision" bout results in neither boxer winning or losing.
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I thought no contest was when a boxer gets knocked out in 30 seconds. ;)
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Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:47 pm
No decision
Officially, however, a "no decision" bout results in neither boxer winning or losing.
...correct, meaning that by default it is automatically a technical draw.
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It also depends on the sport. i.e. Boxing or Marshal arts....

Boxing

In the modern game, the various rules that dictate whether a fight should be called a no contest, a disqualification, or a knockout differ between countries and boxing organizations. Rules in the United States now dictate that any bout which ends prior to the completion of the 4th round, due to an accidental headbutt, is to be declared a no contest. Prior to this, accidental headbutt stoppages had been ruled a technical draw. Most other no contests in boxing occur when unusual circumstances, which would include instances such as an outdoor bout being rained out, the ring falling apart, or an unexpected injury caused by something outside of the boxer's control.

Although uncommon in contemporary combat sports, except in white-collar boxing, a no decision (ND) occurs if both boxers are still standing at the bout's conclusion and there was no knockout; that is, it ends in a tie or a draw, as no winner is selected on points. This may be by law, to discourage gambling; by rules to discourage injury of amateurs; or by prearrangement of the fighters, to protect titles from sudden upsets.

Marshal arts

No contest decisions in mixed martial arts (MMA) are usually declared when an accidental illegal strike (the rules on which differ from each organization) causes the recipient of the blow to be unable to continue, that decision being made by the referee, doctor, the fighter or his corner. Each fighter receives a NC counted in their record and is scored as neither a win nor a loss. Blows from intentional illegal strikes that force a fighter to be unable to continue are not declared a no contest, but as a win and a loss by disqualification for the appropriate fighters.
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Officially in Boxing.

- A no contest occurs when the fight must be ended for a reason deemed out of the control of both fighters.
- A no decision occurs if both boxers are still standing at the bout's conclusion and there was no knockout; that is, it ends in a tie or a draw, as no winner is selected on points.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:15 pm
Officially in Boxing.

- A no contest occurs when the fight must be ended for a reason deemed out of the control of both fighters.
- A no decision occurs if both boxers are still standing at the bout's conclusion and there was no knockout; that is, it ends in a tie or a draw, as no winner is selected on points.
...correct again Sir! (the above being taken from Wikipedia) :)

The result of this Boxing fight Jaron Ennis vs Chris Van Heerden was a 'NO DECISION' but our friends at Betfair decided it was a 'NO CONTEST' even though their rules state:

"All individual bout markets will be settled according to the official result of the relevant governing body immediately after the end of the fight, regardless of any subsequent disqualification or amendment to the result (except if an amendment is announced within 24 hours of the initial settlement of the relevant market in order to correct an error in tallying the points or in order to correct an error in reporting the result)."

https://www.premierboxingchampions.com/ ... an-heerden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxEFC-ZXMWY

Wiki No Decision says:
"a no decision (ND) occurs if both boxers are still standing at the bout's conclusion and there was no knockout; that is, it ends in a tie or a draw, as no winner is selected on points. This may be by law, to discourage gambling; by rules to discourage injury of amateurs; or by prearrangement of the fighters, to protect titles from sudden upsets.

THIS SHOULD NOT BE CONFUSED WITH THE UNRELATED CONTEMPORARY TERM "NO CONTEST". "
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