Is this sheet still available anywhere?
Running Daily Profit & Loss Total - Guardian Automation Bot
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Yes I saw that Dallas.
I have tried to have a go myself at doing this for a Two Lay Place File (Done over two BAF files) but have come unstuck. Could you have a look to see where I am possibly going wrong please? Please see next message for the second file, for some reason I cannot add the second file to this message
The files are laying the first and second fave in the Place Market
N.B. I have set the Odds Condition up to 13 so I can catch more races in order to just test this out, when fuly working I will set this back to its original "Less than 3.80" for combined odds
I feel like I am close but the final calculations are bringing back invalid values for both the Win and Loss Scenarios:
"Horses Lose (as in don't place), I Win" Scenario on both horses I feel this one is the more problamatic
"Horses Win (as in do place), I Lose" Scenario on both horses This I feel is much closer, in fact I have made changes since these logs which may have fixed this one
The changes I made since these logs were:
1. To store the Stake Values AFTER the lay bets have been placed (not during as it would appear to store zeros to these and then place the lay bet stakes)
2. Changed "P/L One" and "P/L Two" SVs to be stored for the Market rather than the Current Selection, as these need to be used between the two rules to calculate the "Final P/L" SV
I have tried to have a go myself at doing this for a Two Lay Place File (Done over two BAF files) but have come unstuck. Could you have a look to see where I am possibly going wrong please? Please see next message for the second file, for some reason I cannot add the second file to this message
The files are laying the first and second fave in the Place Market
N.B. I have set the Odds Condition up to 13 so I can catch more races in order to just test this out, when fuly working I will set this back to its original "Less than 3.80" for combined odds
I feel like I am close but the final calculations are bringing back invalid values for both the Win and Loss Scenarios:
"Horses Lose (as in don't place), I Win" Scenario on both horses I feel this one is the more problamatic
"Horses Win (as in do place), I Lose" Scenario on both horses This I feel is much closer, in fact I have made changes since these logs which may have fixed this one
The changes I made since these logs were:
1. To store the Stake Values AFTER the lay bets have been placed (not during as it would appear to store zeros to these and then place the lay bet stakes)
2. Changed "P/L One" and "P/L Two" SVs to be stored for the Market rather than the Current Selection, as these need to be used between the two rules to calculate the "Final P/L" SV
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Last edited by smgreyuk on Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:35 am, edited 3 times in total.
As promised, here they are:
Just a few notes for these, they lay the 1st and 2nd horse in the Place market and end up storing the final P/L (combined P/L for both horses) for each race in a SV called "Final P/L" which can be used in a column view
I will post an updated version of these which has a running total SV
Also if you wanted this for:
1. Just laying the one fave horse - Then just don't use file B. By just using file A, it only lays the fave horse in the race, but in this case the final P/L will be stored in a SV called "P/L one"
2. To back fave and 2nd fave instead of lay them - FOR EACH FILE - Change the rule name and rule type to a back bet, remove the Store Liability rule, change the logic of the Horse wins and horse loses rules by doing the following:- For when the horse wins (you win) have the stake multiplied by the odds in one part of the adjustment and then minus the stake in the next adjustment. For when the horse loses (you lose) have the stake multiplied by -1 in an adjustment
3. Only back one horse - do both of the above
If anybody needs any helps with the 3 requirements above, let me know and I can probably create it for you.
I will post an updated version of these which has a running total SV
Also if you wanted this for:
1. Just laying the one fave horse - Then just don't use file B. By just using file A, it only lays the fave horse in the race, but in this case the final P/L will be stored in a SV called "P/L one"
2. To back fave and 2nd fave instead of lay them - FOR EACH FILE - Change the rule name and rule type to a back bet, remove the Store Liability rule, change the logic of the Horse wins and horse loses rules by doing the following:- For when the horse wins (you win) have the stake multiplied by the odds in one part of the adjustment and then minus the stake in the next adjustment. For when the horse loses (you lose) have the stake multiplied by -1 in an adjustment
3. Only back one horse - do both of the above
If anybody needs any helps with the 3 requirements above, let me know and I can probably create it for you.
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Its the same safety feature that Betfair use on there website which is enabled by default to avoid any accidental bets through mis clicks etc
Once you are confident you know what you are doing then you can turn it off in your main settings
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/bef ... ading.html
Hi - need some help please
Betangel is new to me and I only came across it a few weeks ago. Amazing software!
I have automated my horse racing lay system into Guardian, but I lack the knowledge to complete it as per my rules. I have read up on the forums, but I apologise for my stupidity – I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO IT. Please help!
The process is as follows: I identify the races in the morning, which can range from a few races to double digits depending on the day. The lays are completed by Betangel throughout the day following my rules. This has been executed with perfection! The next step is the section where I am unable to finish and need some help, please.
I want the system to stop laying bets when it reaches a profit point that I have set. For example, the system does the lays and has wins and losses, but as soon as it hits X points and or £ value, it stops trading. Likewise, if it encounters a predetermined loss (X points and or £ value), it will cease trading. Currently, Guardian executes all the bets according to my rules, but I need to incorporate the win and loss part. Full-time work makes it impossible to track progress throughout the day and keep a record of wins/losses. If someone could write this for me, it would be greatly appreciated. I am more than willing to pay for the service. Let me know. Thanks
Betangel is new to me and I only came across it a few weeks ago. Amazing software!
I have automated my horse racing lay system into Guardian, but I lack the knowledge to complete it as per my rules. I have read up on the forums, but I apologise for my stupidity – I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO IT. Please help!
The process is as follows: I identify the races in the morning, which can range from a few races to double digits depending on the day. The lays are completed by Betangel throughout the day following my rules. This has been executed with perfection! The next step is the section where I am unable to finish and need some help, please.
I want the system to stop laying bets when it reaches a profit point that I have set. For example, the system does the lays and has wins and losses, but as soon as it hits X points and or £ value, it stops trading. Likewise, if it encounters a predetermined loss (X points and or £ value), it will cease trading. Currently, Guardian executes all the bets according to my rules, but I need to incorporate the win and loss part. Full-time work makes it impossible to track progress throughout the day and keep a record of wins/losses. If someone could write this for me, it would be greatly appreciated. I am more than willing to pay for the service. Let me know. Thanks
You can use the automation file in the opening post of this topic and either run them in your Automation rules column 2reebed1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:45 amHi - need some help please
Betangel is new to me and I only came across it a few weeks ago. Amazing software!
I have automated my horse racing lay system into Guardian, but I lack the knowledge to complete it as per my rules. I have read up on the forums, but I apologise for my stupidity – I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO IT. Please help!
The process is as follows: I identify the races in the morning, which can range from a few races to double digits depending on the day. The lays are completed by Betangel throughout the day following my rules. This has been executed with perfection! The next step is the section where I am unable to finish and need some help, please.
I want the system to stop laying bets when it reaches a profit point that I have set. For example, the system does the lays and has wins and losses, but as soon as it hits X points and or £ value, it stops trading. Likewise, if it encounters a predetermined loss (X points and or £ value), it will cease trading. Currently, Guardian executes all the bets according to my rules, but I need to incorporate the win and loss part. Full-time work makes it impossible to track progress throughout the day and keep a record of wins/losses. If someone could write this for me, it would be greatly appreciated. I am more than willing to pay for the service. Let me know. Thanks
Or copy the rules into your existing file
Then just place two Stored Value conditions into a group (on the rule/s that you want to stop from triggering) and select the option where 'one or more of the conditions must be true'
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/gro ... tions.html
And configure one condition to test the stored value for Bet Angel named 'Total_Profit' is greater than -£ Whatever loss amount you want to set
and configure the other to test the stored value for Bet Angel named 'Total_Profit' is less than £ Whatever profit amount you want to set
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Perhaps you should challenge the logic of stopping at a certain profit. Either your system is positive expected value, in which case you will be limiting profit in the long run, or it is negative expected value in which case you shouldn't be running it at all.reebed1 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:45 amHi - need some help please
Betangel is new to me and I only came across it a few weeks ago. Amazing software!
I have automated my horse racing lay system into Guardian, but I lack the knowledge to complete it as per my rules. I have read up on the forums, but I apologise for my stupidity – I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO IT. Please help!
The process is as follows: I identify the races in the morning, which can range from a few races to double digits depending on the day. The lays are completed by Betangel throughout the day following my rules. This has been executed with perfection! The next step is the section where I am unable to finish and need some help, please.
I want the system to stop laying bets when it reaches a profit point that I have set. For example, the system does the lays and has wins and losses, but as soon as it hits X points and or £ value, it stops trading. Likewise, if it encounters a predetermined loss (X points and or £ value), it will cease trading. Currently, Guardian executes all the bets according to my rules, but I need to incorporate the win and loss part. Full-time work makes it impossible to track progress throughout the day and keep a record of wins/losses. If someone could write this for me, it would be greatly appreciated. I am more than willing to pay for the service. Let me know. Thanks