Today's Horse Racing
Is the frequency of bombs getting dropped, both backs and lays, getting ever greater? Someone just smashed the 1.63 fav at Yarmouth from 1.63 out to 1.85 with one bet.
Seems we're getting these smash bets moving prices 4-10 ticks several times a day now. Anyone else noticing it?
Seems we're getting these smash bets moving prices 4-10 ticks several times a day now. Anyone else noticing it?
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steven1976
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Probably less and less money in the markets, so the market just smashing in and against its own money to put some poor punter into a loosing position. If you can spot the barrier of money, you can position yourself nicely.weemac wrote:Is the frequency of bombs getting dropped, both backs and lays, getting ever greater? Someone just smashed the 1.63 fav at Yarmouth from 1.63 out to 1.85 with one bet.
Seems we're getting these smash bets moving prices 4-10 ticks several times a day now. Anyone else noticing it?
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steven1976
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Not sure if this is allowed as it's not BA but just to show how 16 quid in a weak market can influence money in the market.
As soon as I take the front 4 positions it turns off the chunks of money. These chunks of money can match up and down against money as they enter the market to hold people in loosing positions. It's what they do! X MATCHING will be blamed but I can't see how 16 quid can influence 1000s
https://youtu.be/Bnwv5afu_NU
The bombs you see are likely the market setting up 3-4 chunks of money and smashing against it as someone enters a back or lay to put them in a loosing position short term or as long as necessary?
As soon as I take the front 4 positions it turns off the chunks of money. These chunks of money can match up and down against money as they enter the market to hold people in loosing positions. It's what they do! X MATCHING will be blamed but I can't see how 16 quid can influence 1000s
https://youtu.be/Bnwv5afu_NU
The bombs you see are likely the market setting up 3-4 chunks of money and smashing against it as someone enters a back or lay to put them in a loosing position short term or as long as necessary?
No Steven, I'm not talking about a football match's in-play O/U 5.5 goals featuring 2 teams no-one's heard of with £2.5k matched where time decay and market illiquidity play a major part.
I'm talking about a high profile mature market with half a million matched 4 minutes before the off, trading at 1.62-1.63, where someone takes out every single price in one 22-tick swoop up to 1.85.
These 2 markets are a million miles apart in every respect.
I'm talking about a high profile mature market with half a million matched 4 minutes before the off, trading at 1.62-1.63, where someone takes out every single price in one 22-tick swoop up to 1.85.
These 2 markets are a million miles apart in every respect.
In two runner markets, that sort of activity is almost certainly XM.
I've not doubt there are a lot of manipulators out there, but that is typically a side effect of virtuals bets. You can test it on BA but switching it on and off and seeing what is actually underneath the market. If it's gappy XM kicks in and a lot of API display phantom positions.
I've not doubt there are a lot of manipulators out there, but that is typically a side effect of virtuals bets. You can test it on BA but switching it on and off and seeing what is actually underneath the market. If it's gappy XM kicks in and a lot of API display phantom positions.
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steven1976
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I use BA as well. Nothing against the virtual bets. Can be very helpful knowing how predictable it is with virtual bet's as you can often see the next move coming.
Weemac I think sometimes in the weaker markets you can sometimes learn how the money matches easier than trying to understand the horses 3 mins before the off. Take from it what you want.
Weemac I think sometimes in the weaker markets you can sometimes learn how the money matches easier than trying to understand the horses 3 mins before the off. Take from it what you want.
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steven1976
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How do you know you were 158 th out of interest?
