Loss to Profit and How?

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JustLukeYou
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:34 pm
JustLukeYou wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:20 pm

If you're not prepared to make an effort and find the time you may as well give up - it's like not having the time to learn to fly an aircraft because you're too busy flying it!! I don't trade football so haven't watched the videos but this guy manages to find the time to make videos to help other people and you can't find the time to watch them!

I think Shaun meant exactly what he said, nobody's profitable from the very start. Your question was has any profitable trader started off unprofitable. Shaun's saying every profitable trader started of unprofitable because nobody is profitable from the start. Does that make it any clearer or am I just confusing the issue further?
Hi,

I have said I have watched 50 videos. Is that not an effort.

The thing I am confused by is that I am profitable so far and there must be others that made a profit from the start. There are also no real tips on how to become profitable.
I sometimes watch videos just before I go to bed but nobody would say I've made an effort - if I watched 50 of them people would call me a pervert. ;)

There's not much point in watching a video if you're not prepared to read the subtitles and make an effort to understand them.

What really confuses me is that you're one of the few traders that's profitable from the start but ask to hear from traders that were unprofitable from the start and how they turned it around, and want tips on how to become profitable when you're already profitable!!

You also started a thread on if it's possible for you to be a savant and still lose!! And you think you're confused!
Sorry Derek, what I meant was someone could read a game 90% of the time but place the wrong trades. I found was trading in to early and missing the goals.
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Kai
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JustLukeYou wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 pm
The thing I am confused by is that I am profitable so far and there must be others that made a profit from the start.
If you're truly profitable then I guess congrats is in order, no actual need to ask all these questions then, is there?
JustLukeYou wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 pm
There are also no real tips on how to become profitable.
Well you're just trolling everyone at this point, including yourself :mrgreen:

You ask for tips that you apparently don't need nor want, and then when you get them you say that they aren't real tips either. I think that about sums it up.
JustLukeYou wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 pm
I am confused
That is a massive understatement.
JustLukeYou
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So Albacete are 1-0 up. I was very confident they would win but I can't see what to do now. What would an experienced trader do?

I am trying to see if either team scores a lot of goals in the second half but I can't see what else to try.
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Derek27
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JustLukeYou wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:47 pm
So Albacete are 1-0 up. I was very confident they would win but I can't see what to do now. What would an experienced trader do?

I am trying to see if either team scores a lot of goals in the second half but I can't see what else to try.
If you're confident Albacete will win how can their opponents score a lot of goals?
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Unless you're going to absorb guidance there's no point in any of us entertaining these posts any longer. I don't know how many times I can read good advice being followed by:

I just made £X from *insert match here* with a stake of £Y, I'm doing really well. I have a made all this profit but does anybody know how to make profit?

Gets a little repetitive.
JustLukeYou
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:51 pm
JustLukeYou wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:47 pm
So Albacete are 1-0 up. I was very confident they would win but I can't see what to do now. What would an experienced trader do?

I am trying to see if either team scores a lot of goals in the second half but I can't see what else to try.
If you're confident Albacete will win how can their opponents score a lot of goals?
In previous matches.
JustLukeYou
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CallumPerry wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:52 pm
Unless you're going to absorb guidance there's no point in any of us entertaining these posts any longer. I don't know how many times I can read good advice being followed by:

I just made £X from *insert match here* with a stake of £Y, I'm doing really well. I have a made all this profit but does anybody know how to make profit?

Gets a little repetitive.
I think real examples would help massively. What about the current game Albacete v Oviedo. It is half time but I don't have a clue what to do.

I just tried watching some videos from Paulo Rebelo but these ones didn't have subtitles.
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JustLukeYou wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:52 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:51 pm
JustLukeYou wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:47 pm
So Albacete are 1-0 up. I was very confident they would win but I can't see what to do now. What would an experienced trader do?

I am trying to see if either team scores a lot of goals in the second half but I can't see what else to try.
If you're confident Albacete will win how can their opponents score a lot of goals?
In previous matches.
You need to make a bit more effort with your questions: insert "in previous matches" in your post. Completely irrelevant but at least everybody would know what you mean.

An experienced trader wouldn't open a trade if he didn't have a clue what to do.
JustLukeYou
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In terms of this Albacete match according to SofaScore Oviedo have been attacking hard for an equaliser and they did start out as favourites.

There is a video on YouTube from an American who says he just uses SofaScore for live betting.
JustLukeYou
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Bloody hell. I could see that Oviedo would score. I put 5p on a draw as they were losing and they went and scored.

Just traded that out for 14p. About 7 minutes.

Earlier I put 10p on over 1.5 goals but traded out for 8 but that would have only made 2p. I spotted an opportunity to make a much higher profit margin. This is all new to me but I don't understand how I am doing it.
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JustLukeYou wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:31 pm
Bloody hell. I could see that Oviedo would score. I put 5p on a draw as they were losing and they went and scored.

Just traded that out for 14p. About 7 minutes.

Earlier I put 10p on over 1.5 goals but traded out for 8 but that would have only made 2p. I spotted an opportunity to make a much higher profit margin. This is all new to me but I don't understand how I am doing it.
It's obvious how you're doing it. You saw they were going to equalise, put a bet on the draw and got it right, hence you're winning.

If you're trading on Betfair you better watch your stakes or you'll get restricted and your natural talent for football trading will go to waste.
JustLukeYou
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Hi,

I am using Smarkets. How can I keep progressing though? I feel that with a mentor I could really crush it but doing this on my own is much slower.

I have two trebles today and Friday I got a 600% profit after seeing the odds were way to high. I am terrified that if I increase my stakes I will start to lose. Bet pennies is easy tbh

I have also seen people use tricks to push their margin. I don't know when I should or shouldn't use them.
JustLukeYou
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Also gods honest on truth I started off by backing both teams to win 2-1. Real Oviedo won 2-1. If I stuck with that I would have won £1.25 from 20p but I traded out as it was still 0-0 after about 35 minutes.

I could see that both teams had a lot of draws recently which seemed like it was unlikely to continue. Should have carried on those trades!



Bet Placed · For 1 - 2
Albacete vs. Real Oviedo / Correct Score for Albacete vs. Real Oviedo
‎Oct‎ ‎13‎, ‎2019‎ ‎16‎:‎59‎:‎01 ‎BST
£0.10
12.5
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Derek27
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JustLukeYou wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:56 pm
Also gods honest on truth I started off by backing both teams to win 2-1. Real Oviedo won 2-1. If I stuck with that I would have won £1.25 from 20p but I traded out as it was still 0-0 after about 35 minutes.

I could see that both teams had a lot of draws recently which seemed like it was unlikely to continue. Should have carried on those trades!



Bet Placed · For 1 - 2
Albacete vs. Real Oviedo / Correct Score for Albacete vs. Real Oviedo
‎Oct‎ ‎13‎, ‎2019‎ ‎16‎:‎59‎:‎01 ‎BST
£0.10
12.5
You really need to learn to be decisive. Make a decision and accept that it may or may not be in your favour, with the aim of getting enough in your favour to make a profit. That after all is why it's called gambling.
JustLukeYou
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Hi,

That is what many of my early threads were about. I was trading out far to early. But also people saying this isn't gambling. It is trading. As it was 0-0 after 35 minutes I couldn't see the value in still going for 2-1.
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