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wearthefoxhat
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spreadbetting wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:50 am
Here's my scraped data for the day, I'll log the prices at 2 inutes out and off time see if there's anything in it for simple automation

11:01 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,2. Canine Duke, class A8, time difference 0.46
11:16 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,4. Leave Her Lucky, class A9, time difference 0.2
12:31 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,6. Ballymac Suling, class A3, time difference 0.34
12:39 Central Park Tue 21 January 2020,1. Mystical Sparkey, class A5, time difference 0.16
13:08 Central Park Tue 21 January 2020,2. Sophies Diva, class A4, time difference 0.13
13:19 Nottingham Tue 21 January 2020,6. Longsearch, class A5, time difference 0.37
13:49 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,4. Miss Rankin, class A2, time difference 0.14
14:08 Sunderland Tue 21 January 2020,2. Power Diva, class A2, time difference 0.12
14:22 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,1. Saras Story, class A8, time difference 0.49
14:32 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,1. Lisneal Tornado, class A5, time difference 0.11
14:47 Sunderland Tue 21 January 2020,4. Killacolla Dude, class A4, time difference 0.25
15:02 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,5. Joe Montana, class A3, time difference 0.13
15:27 Sunderland Tue 21 January 2020,1. All Gone, class A3, time difference 0.14
15:29 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,6. Thunder Ted, class A10, time difference 0.21
15:49 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,3. Yassoo Andrico, class A8, time difference 0.1
15:59 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,4. Master Blinker, class A3, time difference 0.25
16:09 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,6. Regeva Smiler, class A6, time difference 0.2
16:19 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,2. Mineola Mycat, class A6, time difference 0.14
16:29 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,4. Caterham Rocker, class A7, time difference 0.1
16:48 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,5. Lisneal Crafty, class A5, time difference 0.26
16:58 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,4. Moorstown Bobby, class A4, time difference 0.15
17:18 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,1. Some Smiler, class A4, time difference 0.16
17:37 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,1. Aim High, class A8, time difference 0.11
18:02 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,1. Centre Fold, class A6, time difference 0.25
18:09 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,2. Slaneyside Toffy, class A5, time difference 0.46
18:27 Henlow Tue 21 January 2020,4. Cashinonjoey, class A3, time difference 0.49
18:29 Poole Tue 21 January 2020,4. Devon Queen, class A7, time difference 0.25
18:47 Poole Tue 21 January 2020,4. Dapper Pet, class A2, time difference 0.24
19:07 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,3. Noans Dolly, class A6, time difference 0.14
19:17 Henlow Tue 21 January 2020,2. Salthill Duke, class A6, time difference 0.12
19:19 Poole Tue 21 January 2020,1. Juliet Recruit, class A8, time difference 0.22
19:23 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,2. Deecees Whisky, class A10, time difference 0.25
19:38 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,1. Salthill Romeo, class A10, time difference 0.24
19:49 Henlow Tue 21 January 2020,1. Nans Blitz, class A8, time difference 0.1
20:08 Poole Tue 21 January 2020,4. Cyclers Bell, class A6, time difference 0.26
20:21 Henlow Tue 21 January 2020,1. Muxton Teddy, class A3, time difference 0.27
20:44 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Fizzy Fitz, class A4, time difference 0.12
21:26 Henlow Tue 21 January 2020,1. Ballymac Pebbles, class A2, time difference 0.34
21:30 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,5. Crossgarcrainey, class A10, time difference 0.23
21:34 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Coney Calyx, class A3, time difference 0.24
Good luck.

I used Racing Post, so for comparison. I only focussed on ensuring each runner had run over CD last run.
The qualifiers are a lot less, and only 2 on your list.

14.08 T2 - Power Diva - Agrees with

not with;

1.19 T6 - Longsearch - (I've got T1 Salacres Armani) +0.01
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:30 pm
spreadbetting wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:50 am
Here's my scraped data for the day, I'll log the prices at 2 inutes out and off time see if there's anything in it for simple automation

11:01 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,2. Canine Duke, class A8, time difference 0.46
11:16 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,4. Leave Her Lucky, class A9, time difference 0.2
12:31 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,6. Ballymac Suling, class A3, time difference 0.34
12:39 Central Park Tue 21 January 2020,1. Mystical Sparkey, class A5, time difference 0.16
13:08 Central Park Tue 21 January 2020,2. Sophies Diva, class A4, time difference 0.13
13:19 Nottingham Tue 21 January 2020,6. Longsearch, class A5, time difference 0.37
13:49 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,4. Miss Rankin, class A2, time difference 0.14
14:08 Sunderland Tue 21 January 2020,2. Power Diva, class A2, time difference 0.12
14:22 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,1. Saras Story, class A8, time difference 0.49
14:32 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,1. Lisneal Tornado, class A5, time difference 0.11
14:47 Sunderland Tue 21 January 2020,4. Killacolla Dude, class A4, time difference 0.25
15:02 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,5. Joe Montana, class A3, time difference 0.13
15:27 Sunderland Tue 21 January 2020,1. All Gone, class A3, time difference 0.14
15:29 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,6. Thunder Ted, class A10, time difference 0.21
15:49 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,3. Yassoo Andrico, class A8, time difference 0.1
15:59 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,4. Master Blinker, class A3, time difference 0.25
16:09 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,6. Regeva Smiler, class A6, time difference 0.2
16:19 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,2. Mineola Mycat, class A6, time difference 0.14
16:29 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,4. Caterham Rocker, class A7, time difference 0.1
16:48 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,5. Lisneal Crafty, class A5, time difference 0.26
16:58 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,4. Moorstown Bobby, class A4, time difference 0.15
17:18 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,1. Some Smiler, class A4, time difference 0.16
17:37 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,1. Aim High, class A8, time difference 0.11
18:02 Hove Tue 21 January 2020,1. Centre Fold, class A6, time difference 0.25
18:09 Monmore Tue 21 January 2020,2. Slaneyside Toffy, class A5, time difference 0.46
18:27 Henlow Tue 21 January 2020,4. Cashinonjoey, class A3, time difference 0.49
18:29 Poole Tue 21 January 2020,4. Devon Queen, class A7, time difference 0.25
18:47 Poole Tue 21 January 2020,4. Dapper Pet, class A2, time difference 0.24
19:07 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,3. Noans Dolly, class A6, time difference 0.14
19:17 Henlow Tue 21 January 2020,2. Salthill Duke, class A6, time difference 0.12
19:19 Poole Tue 21 January 2020,1. Juliet Recruit, class A8, time difference 0.22
19:23 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,2. Deecees Whisky, class A10, time difference 0.25
19:38 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,1. Salthill Romeo, class A10, time difference 0.24
19:49 Henlow Tue 21 January 2020,1. Nans Blitz, class A8, time difference 0.1
20:08 Poole Tue 21 January 2020,4. Cyclers Bell, class A6, time difference 0.26
20:21 Henlow Tue 21 January 2020,1. Muxton Teddy, class A3, time difference 0.27
20:44 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Fizzy Fitz, class A4, time difference 0.12
21:26 Henlow Tue 21 January 2020,1. Ballymac Pebbles, class A2, time difference 0.34
21:30 Crayford Tue 21 January 2020,5. Crossgarcrainey, class A10, time difference 0.23
21:34 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Coney Calyx, class A3, time difference 0.24
Good luck.

I used Racing Post, so for comparison. I only focussed on ensuring each runner had run over CD last run.
The qualifiers are a lot less, and only 2 on your list.

14.08 T2 - Power Diva - Agrees with

not with;

1.19 T6 - Longsearch - (I've got T1 Salacres Armani) +0.01
Interesting stuff but looking at TF then for T1 Salacres Armani it says "Pup slow to get the hang of things. Inclined to miss the break." and forecast price is 5.0 (Decimal). It seems to suggest there are 2 other dogs (T3 and T6) who are better with lower forecast prices.

Not saying who is wrong or right here but be interesting to see which dog(s) shorten in price for this race etc. :)
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jimibt wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:39 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:34 am
This one worked really well this morning by splitting me trades up and drip feeding them in. :)

Dog 1.
that seems to tally up well with the stats from the SportingLife website. It also tallies with your second take on LTB for Fieldview Chief as i can see that the low/high odds had a nice drift!

in short, if this is following a published strategy and folk are backing or laying these runners (as straight bets), then i can see no reason not to get involved. only caveat being the identification of the (fair/value) price ahead of the move. This facet, I think I've solved in part ;)
Also means any losses are small if things go wrong and the dog starts drifing as i havent put the entire stake in yet. :)
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:30 pm
Good luck.

I used Racing Post, so for comparison. I only focussed on ensuring each runner had run over CD last run.
The qualifiers are a lot less, and only 2 on your list.

14.08 T2 - Power Diva - Agrees with

not with;

1.19 T6 - Longsearch - (I've got T1 Salacres Armani) +0.01
I see Longsearch came down from 3.4 to 2.8ish at the off time. BUt I'm only logging data at the moment by price at 2min+, off time and rank. I've greyhound stuff running all the time so to add other strats in won't be a problem especially if they earn money :)
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Nottingham 1:19 T6 went from a high of 6 to a low of 2.54.

Jesus, i got out far too early. :( But £5.40 is ok. :) But it could have been easily double that. :(
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spreadbetting wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:21 pm
wearthefoxhat wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:30 pm
Good luck.

I used Racing Post, so for comparison. I only focussed on ensuring each runner had run over CD last run.
The qualifiers are a lot less, and only 2 on your list.

14.08 T2 - Power Diva - Agrees with

not with;

1.19 T6 - Longsearch - (I've got T1 Salacres Armani) +0.01
I see Longsearch came down from 3.4 to 2.8ish at the off time. BUt I'm only logging data at the moment by price at 2min+, off time and rank. I've greyhound stuff running all the time so to add other strats in won't be a problem especially if they earn money :)
Crikey, I saw that...nice one.
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Now i know what those letters and numbers mean. :lol:

U.K. - Top Grade - (A1 - A3) equilavent to American greyhound grades (A, B) and Australian grades (1, 2). Some 'top graders' may also compete in major race events and can average speeds around a track between 38-39 mph.

U.K. - Middle Grade - (A4 - A6) equilavent to American grades (C, D) and Australian grades (3, 3/4, 4). Occasionally 'graded runners' competing at the very best "city tracks" maybe the equal of 'A1' graded dogs running at perhaps lesser tracks. These hounds average speeds between 37-38 miles per hour.

U.K. - Low Grade - (A7 - A11) equilavent to American grades (E, F and Maidens) and Aussie grades (4/5, 5 and Maidens). Most dogs will begin or finish their racing careers in the lower grades and generally record speeds between 35-37 mph.

U.K. - B Grade - (B1 - B6) This grade prefix usually indicates to either a slightly shorter or longer middle-distance.

As for the OR classification, that means "open race" meaning it is the highest level of racing in the UK. This does not mean that it is open to any participant.
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May as well include the OR races too then

18:39 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Cuore Di Ferro, class OR, time difference 0.65
19:57 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,4. Piemans Cougar, class OR, time difference 0.18
20:29 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,5. The Other Rex, class OR, time difference 0.18
20:59 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Droopys Wild, class OR, time difference 0.14
21:14 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Droopys Gina, class OR, time difference 0.59
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spreadbetting wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:16 pm
May as well include the OR races too then

18:39 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Cuore Di Ferro, class OR, time difference 0.65
19:57 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,4. Piemans Cougar, class OR, time difference 0.18
20:29 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,5. The Other Rex, class OR, time difference 0.18
20:59 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Droopys Wild, class OR, time difference 0.14
21:14 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Droopys Gina, class OR, time difference 0.59
I'm thinking to include A1 to A6, B1 to B6 and OR.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:29 pm
spreadbetting wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:16 pm
May as well include the OR races too then

18:39 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Cuore Di Ferro, class OR, time difference 0.65
19:57 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,4. Piemans Cougar, class OR, time difference 0.18
20:29 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,5. The Other Rex, class OR, time difference 0.18
20:59 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Droopys Wild, class OR, time difference 0.14
21:14 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Droopys Gina, class OR, time difference 0.59
I'm thinking to include A1 to A6, B1 to B6 and OR.
noted ;)
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jimibt wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:31 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:29 pm
spreadbetting wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:16 pm
May as well include the OR races too then

18:39 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Cuore Di Ferro, class OR, time difference 0.65
19:57 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,4. Piemans Cougar, class OR, time difference 0.18
20:29 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,5. The Other Rex, class OR, time difference 0.18
20:59 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Droopys Wild, class OR, time difference 0.14
21:14 Sheffield Tue 21 January 2020,2. Droopys Gina, class OR, time difference 0.59
I'm thinking to include A1 to A6, B1 to B6 and OR.
noted ;)
My thinking is that the time difference in the lower grade races where the dog is either starting or finishing its carreer is probably not as significant as the higher grade races. :)
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Only been going just over a week and already 5,000 views.

Hopefully that means more people backing the same Dog and helping force the prices down even further. :lol:
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:16 pm

Hopefully that means more people backing the same Dog and helping force the prices down even further. :lol:
Soon Betfair will ban us all as they will think we all are some kind of syndicate or somethin :D
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:16 pm
Only been going just over a week and already 5,000 views.

Hopefully that means more people backing the same Dog and helping force the prices down even further. :lol:
If too many people will start backing and odds become too short, it will be a good time to lay those odds :roll:
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Bog wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:44 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:16 pm
Only been going just over a week and already 5,000 views.

Hopefully that means more people backing the same Dog and helping force the prices down even further. :lol:
If too many people will start backing and odds become too short, it will be a good time to lay those odds :roll:
I was joking, doubt it will make much difference as the original article on a punters website has been going for years. The time difference is important but there are also other factors plus you need to come up with a way of getting matched at the higher prices. That’s the key as there is no point jumping on when the price has already moved 20+ ticks. And as for laying if that does happen then that’s usually at less than 1 minute to post whereby races can get suspended and go off early leaving the trader stuffed.
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