Coronavirus - A pale horse,4 men and ....beer

[sa7med]

Where do you get your definition of 'racism'?

There's a black guy, a white guy and a Chinese guy sitting at the other table, or there are three blokes sitting at the table. Overly focusing on somebody's ethnicity when it's not necessary can come across as mildly racist. I would regard racism as treating a particular group differently even if it's not negatively.

What I was trying to say is if you're trying to discuss differences in status/privilege that are due to racism and based on race, then it's perfectly plausible to focus on race. If one group is objectively more privileged than another, it's not racist to point that out.

[Derek27]

Where do you get your definition of 'racism'?

There's a black guy, a white guy and a Chinese guy sitting at the other table, or there are three blokes sitting at the table. Overly focusing on somebody's ethnicity when it's not necessary can come across as mildly racist. I would regard racism as treating a particular group differently even if it's not negatively.

What I was trying to say is if you're trying to discuss differences in status/privilege that are due to racism and based on race, then it's perfectly plausible to focus on race. If one group is objectively more privileged than another, it's not racist to point that out.

It was partly the way she said it. To say 55% of white people achieve a certain salary that only 23% of black people achieve, fine. But to single somebody out as a 'white privileged mail' as though he only achieved whatever he's achieved from being white is arguably racist, or perhaps racially insensitive.

[Kai]

If one group is objectively more privileged than another, it's not racist to point that out.

Good luck explaining that concept to a mob

I agree that it's ultimately about class, not race. They may want to turn it into a race war but it's a class war that they're seeing. Or refusing to see for whatever reason.

[sa7med]

If one group is objectively more privileged than another, it's not racist to point that out.

Good luck explaining that concept to a mob

I agree that it's ultimately about class, not race. They may want to turn it into a race war but it's a class war that they're seeing. Or refusing to see for whatever reason.

Don't agree with the characterization of it as a race war. People protesting what they view as racial injustice, for the most part they are peaceful, with occasional rioting (though that's what disproportionately makes the news). Similar to the the civil rights movements of the 50s-60s. Some of those turned violent, was that a race war or legitimate voicing of grievances? It wasn't that long ago, well into living memory that people had to use different bathrooms/restaurants etc.

My biggest issue with them is that they are not social distancing!

[Derek27]

My biggest issue with them is that they are not social distancing!

At the end of the day, the people who act irresponsibly and stand in large crowds will be the first ones to catch, and possibly die from it. They'll also be spreading it more with people in the crowds than the supermarkets they visit, hopefully.

[superfrank]

Remember the USA is about 12% black and 72% white.

Those stats are out of date. Whites are less than 60% now and are predicted to be a minority by by 2045.

[greenmark]

Remember the USA is about 12% black and 72% white.

Those stats are out of date. Whites are less than 60% now and are predicted to be a minority by by 2045.

Excellent. Although I'm unlikely to see it.
Meanwhile just to show US police don't discriminate by race or age when it comes to inappropriate force.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52932611

[superfrank]

Bald men at higher risk of severe case of Covid-19, research finds
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... rch-finds/

The link is so strong that some researchers are suggesting baldness should be considered a risk factor called the "Gabrin sign", after the first US physician to die of Covid-19 in the United States, Dr Frank Gabrin, who was bald.
The lead author of the key study behind the association, Professor Carlos Wambier of Brown University, told The Telegraph: "We really think that baldness is a perfect predictor of severity."

[Kai]

If one group is objectively more privileged than another, it's not racist to point that out.

Good luck explaining that concept to a mob

I agree that it's ultimately about class, not race. They may want to turn it into a race war but it's a class war that they're seeing. Or refusing to see for whatever reason.

Don't agree with the characterization of it as a race war. People protesting what they view as racial injustice, for the most part they are peaceful, with occasional rioting (though that's what disproportionately makes the news). Similar to the the civil rights movements of the 50s-60s. Some of those turned violent, was that a race war or legitimate voicing of grievances? It wasn't that long ago, well into living memory that people had to use different bathrooms/restaurants etc.

My biggest issue with them is that they are not social distancing!

Couldn't disagree more unfortunately, at least based on what I've seen on social media, and especially when leaving CNN running in the background for hours as they're doing puff pieces about Floyd while ignoring the chaos in the streets, or when tuning into Crowder livestreams.

Very difficult to get any facts straight but one last comment from me, as a neutral it seems pretty clear that peaceful protests are the minority, basically all of the big cities have seen organized looting and violence with mysterious brick pallets conveniently appearing everywhere, with far-left activists trying to use George Floyd protests to incite chaos and terrorism throughout the country. Seen numerous clips of ANTIFA and others being kicked out of peaceful protesting groups by genuine protesters for trying to incite violence as per their handbook. Normies are having none of that radical shit, and fair play to them.

No idea how they're going to put a stop to it other than brute force, since the whole point of it is to have a decentralized org and no real leadership, but you can understand why they want to brand it a terrorist organization.

Nobody cares about Covid anymore. My biggest issue is the mainstream media by and large creating a whole new generation of racists and doing their very best to divide everyone, which will then spill over to the rest of the world. To be incompetent at your job and misinforming the public is one thing which I could forgive if you live in a bubble, but to actively twist out the truth to suit your agendas is something else entirely.

[Trader Pat]

Meanwhile just to show US police don't discriminate by race or age when it comes to inappropriate force.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52932611

That just proves they don't discriminate in a protest situation. In most situations ethnic minorities are targeted more than whites. Traffic stops, stop & searches etc...

IMO cops need to be trained much better than they are for but for me the problem is the system. The US justice system is systematically racist, that's why blacks get generally longer prison terms than whites for committing the exact same crime.

I have a real issue with CNN during all the coverage because I think their helping to fan the flames. They have every black person with a profile on the channel on a daily basis allowed to just say whatever they want without being challenged, its not journalism at all. When you have the family of George Floyd demanding equal justice and wanting the death penalty you can understand that but when other people are on demanding the 4 cops be charged with 1st degree murder there should be some push back by the interviewer but there never is. These cops will all plea down to a lesser charge because that how the system works for everyone and CNN should be preparing people for that rather than being cheerleaders for the victims family.

Ben Ferencz once said there is no such thing as perfect justice but the justice you do get is better than no justice at all.

[superfrank]

I did not kill George Floyd - Brendan O'Neill
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/06/0 ... rge-floyd/

The attempt to hold all whites responsible for the death of Floyd shows what a dead-end woke politics is.

[sa7med]

Forget white or black, I wanna be

[Trader Pat]

Forget white or black, I wanna be

+1

[Kai]

I don't get it guys, does this mean that David Icke was right all along?

I'm fine with being green as well, as long as you come in peace.

[Trader Pat]

I don't get it guys, does this mean that David Icke was right all along?

I'm fine with being green as well, as long as you come in peace.

Of course we come in peace, didn't you watch Close Encounters?