Rants are allowed, the forum even has a corner dedicated to itJameseverard wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 6:50 pmSorry all for the post earlier I was really upset as I had lost a lot of money especially this morning. I will take the advice and not place any more money on the dogs and purely record the data and see if I can get any angles to work. Sorry again for the rant earlier
That's why the forum is useful. Let it out here rather than losing the plot. Some people have a rant then get pissed off with the shoulda woulda coulda comments but they're always given with the right intent so good for you for recognising that. Everyone here has made mistakes or needed help sometimes so you're in good company. Maybe ring fence 10 or 20 quid a week to 'burn' like you would with a new hobby and trade for fun and pennies, when you start to do OK you can scale up. That's the beauty of trading, learning can be quite cheap and you only need to push your chips into the middle of the table when you've got it sussed.Jameseverard wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 6:50 pmSorry all for the post earlier I was really upset as I had lost a lot of money especially this morning. I will take the advice and not place any more money on the dogs and purely record the data and see if I can get any angles to work. Sorry again for the rant earlier
Yes but don't mind Derek if you bump into him, he just lives there.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 7:33 pmRants are allowed, the forum even has a corner dedicated to itJameseverard wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 6:50 pmSorry all for the post earlier I was really upset as I had lost a lot of money especially this morning. I will take the advice and not place any more money on the dogs and purely record the data and see if I can get any angles to work. Sorry again for the rant earlier
Nice work.The Silk Run wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 12:06 amHi Hi Jameseverard
I believe their are many successful traders using automation in the AUS Greyhound markets, so it's not beyond your reach, and you to could be one of them.
From my own personal experience I can say it requires a lot of patience. The system[s] I use took about three months to develop using 10p stakes LIVE, so any losses minimal !!!
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Very impressive Minnie. The increased liquidity of late has made me look again at AUS but the timings don't particularly suit, and I don't trust my auto enough not to babysit.The Silk Run wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 12:06 amHi Hi Jameseverard
I believe their are many successful traders using automation in the AUS Greyhound markets, so it's not beyond your reach, and you to could be one of them.
From my own personal experience I can say it requires a lot of patience. The system[s] I use took about three months to develop using 10p stakes LIVE, so any losses minimal !!!
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Minnie LAI
Nice one!!The Silk Run wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:09 pmA brief foray on the UK Grey markets today, and tomorrow. Similar results mid-week. Commence 1 month LIVE testing 1st July, fully-automatic 2/3 bots in service ....
Well done!Crazyskier wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:28 pmAs we're posting greyhound botting P&Ls for today, I thought I'd add mine, as due in no small part to the very generous help over several years from Peter Le, Dallas, Spreadbetting, Jollygreen and many others, I seem to do OK on very small stakes.
I started with penny- pinching back in 2016, see viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12645&p=107061&hilit=penny#p107061 and after much toil and several wiped banks and false starts, seem to have developed a reasonably profitable system, but still very risk-averse with some very complex conditions and selection. The beauty of the dogs is the sheer volume of races and though I usually get a modest few quid from the horses too, the dogs seem to have become my speciality, though still capping liability to less than £2 per race. I bot all of the dog races and find that the less I manually intervene, the better.
TLDR; Small, but consistent pennies do make pounds! With enough perseverance and determination to find something that returns more than it loses, consistently, ie an edge, not just variance or luck, which is always fickle, as others have commented small stakes are fine, as you can see on page 1 of my P&L below:
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Well done CS, but reading between the lines that's no phenomenon, but consistent. I believe the P&L's give inspiration. I used to get bombarded with these documents all the time from Australian traders trying to wind me up !!! It just made me more determined.Crazyskier wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:28 pmAs we're posting greyhound botting P&Ls for today, I thought I'd add mine, as due in no small part to the very generous help over several years from Peter Le, Dallas, Spreadbetting, Jollygreen and many others, I seem to do OK on very small stakes.
I started with penny- pinching back in 2016, see viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12645&p=107061&hilit=penny#p107061 and after much toil and several wiped banks and false starts, seem to have developed a reasonably profitable system, but still very risk-averse with some very complex conditions and selection. The beauty of the dogs is the sheer volume of races and though I usually get a modest few quid from the horses too, the dogs seem to have become my speciality, stealing amounts of £1.50 before commission on almost every place market when the expected ratio from win to place meet certain criteria. I bot all of the dog races and find if I do my prep correctly (credit Archery for some great innovative ways at looking at dogs markets), then usually all is well.
TLDR; Small, but consistent pennies do make pounds! With enough perseverance and determination to find something that returns more than it loses, consistently, ie an edge, not just variance or luck, which is always fickle, as others have commented small stakes are fine, as you can see on page 1 of my P&L below:
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Thanks Archery. I edited my post to include yourself as worthy of thanks due to the theory crafting and transparency with your dogs speculation. It gave me a few insights that have helped my overall strategy. Cheers! Thanks Minnie Lai too. Let's keep theory crafting and sharing approaches that work or don't! Without giving away edges of course.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:40 pmWell done!Crazyskier wrote: ↑Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:28 pmAs we're posting greyhound botting P&Ls for today, I thought I'd add mine, as due in no small part to the very generous help over several years from Peter Le, Dallas, Spreadbetting, Jollygreen and many others, I seem to do OK on very small stakes.
I started with penny- pinching back in 2016, see viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12645&p=107061&hilit=penny#p107061 and after much toil and several wiped banks and false starts, seem to have developed a reasonably profitable system, but still very risk-averse with some very complex conditions and selection. The beauty of the dogs is the sheer volume of races and though I usually get a modest few quid from the horses too, the dogs seem to have become my speciality, though still capping liability to less than £2 per race. I bot all of the dog races and find that the less I manually intervene, the better.
TLDR; Small, but consistent pennies do make pounds! With enough perseverance and determination to find something that returns more than it loses, consistently, ie an edge, not just variance or luck, which is always fickle, as others have commented small stakes are fine, as you can see on page 1 of my P&L below:
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Nice one. I used to do that when fully manual trading, but I must ask though, if you have a positive expectation, would it not be better to let it run as long as there are races?The Silk Run wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:20 pmI'm done for the day as the combined three bots have reached the net target.
