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Trader Pat
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jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:54 pm
I never said you did, don't get a complex... you know the type though.

You can think of me what you like, I'm not fussed, it's in your head not mine. I enjoy them, so I've posted them... I also once changed the brake pads on the Mrs car and enjoyed that too but I'm defo no mechanic.
I didn't for a second think that was aimed at me James, if it was then that would make you very passive aggressive and I know you don't like labels

Its not about what I think its about what you've posted, there's a difference between enjoying them an believing them, and you've proven many times that you believe them.


jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:51 pm
I also don't know what that Secretary of state is saying isn't true, most of Trumps points are acknowledged in Congress, they're saying basically these problems have always existed so move on, thats not a denial... for the secretary of state to say what Trump says is not true is simply a denial of reality. We've all seen the videos of the ballots being pulled out from beneath the table (unless it was CGI, but let's not got into conspiracy realms) we all saw the spikes in Biden votes on election night and we've all seen live on CNN where Trumps votes decreased and Bidens increased in real time... before our very own eyes... we all know that ballots were recieved from the dead and double votes and votes from other states... its undeniable. Is that enough to overturn an election, probably not but to say it didn't happen is just denial of reality. He's not deluded to point it out, it should be pointed out and it should be fixed for the next election, if not the free world isn't a fair one and that isn't a democracy that we all seem to love so much.

That's what you posted the other day regarding Trumps phone call with the Georgia Sec of State. You're pedaling a lot of conspiracy theories in that one paragraph all of which have been debunked.
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:05 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:21 pm
Euler wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:18 pm


I linked to that article because my guy, who works in the legislature in Washingston, said that was what is going to happen. He already knows what is going to happen.
Fair enough if that is what your contact says. Ive heard from people a bit higher up than that, and i get a very different story! Time will tell! :-)
What do you mean by a bit higher up? Pay grade? Authority? Euler didn't even say what position this guy has so you must be talking through your arse.

I heard from big chief - ruler of the universe, he said Biden's won - end of argument. :)
Derek, surely if you're going to argue so strongly against his opinion then you must carefully analyze his 3 hour Youtube video evidence first, along with any other video evidence he posted after that.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:43 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:54 pm
I never said you did, don't get a complex... you know the type though.

You can think of me what you like, I'm not fussed, it's in your head not mine. I enjoy them, so I've posted them... I also once changed the brake pads on the Mrs car and enjoyed that too but I'm defo no mechanic.
I didn't for a second think that was aimed at me James, if it was then that would make you very passive aggressive and I know you don't like labels

Its not about what I think its about what you've posted, there's a difference between enjoying them an believing them, and you've proven many times that you believe them.


jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:51 pm
I also don't know what that Secretary of state is saying isn't true, most of Trumps points are acknowledged in Congress, they're saying basically these problems have always existed so move on, thats not a denial... for the secretary of state to say what Trump says is not true is simply a denial of reality. We've all seen the videos of the ballots being pulled out from beneath the table (unless it was CGI, but let's not got into conspiracy realms) we all saw the spikes in Biden votes on election night and we've all seen live on CNN where Trumps votes decreased and Bidens increased in real time... before our very own eyes... we all know that ballots were recieved from the dead and double votes and votes from other states... its undeniable. Is that enough to overturn an election, probably not but to say it didn't happen is just denial of reality. He's not deluded to point it out, it should be pointed out and it should be fixed for the next election, if not the free world isn't a fair one and that isn't a democracy that we all seem to love so much.

That's what you posted the other day regarding Trumps phone call with the Georgia Sec of State. You're pedaling a lot of conspiracy theories in that one paragraph all of which have been debunked.
So it makes me a conspiracy theorist to believe what I've seen with my own eyes and to listen to what has been recognised as did happen by Congress? Most of which have been debunked isn't all have been debunked (maybe I'm a semi conspiracy theorist) It is a fact that ballots were recieved from dead people and that people voted twice and unless it was all an illusion the spike in votes were also real, the cause of which was apparently human error (if you remember) so it happend... then as for the ballots from under the table I recognised that could have been cgi but also that I didn't want to get into conspiracy realms.

We could debate it all day long but the issue is that if something doesn't fit what you believe then it simply isn't a possibility, so it would be pointless.

Like I've said, you can label me as you see fit, it makes zero difference to me.. ill be james the conspiracy theorist if it pleases you.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:43 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:54 pm
I never said you did, don't get a complex... you know the type though.

You can think of me what you like, I'm not fussed, it's in your head not mine. I enjoy them, so I've posted them... I also once changed the brake pads on the Mrs car and enjoyed that too but I'm defo no mechanic.
I didn't for a second think that was aimed at me James, if it was then that would make you very passive aggressive and I know you don't like labels

Its not about what I think its about what you've posted, there's a difference between enjoying them an believing them, and you've proven many times that you believe them.


jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:51 pm
I also don't know what that Secretary of state is saying isn't true, most of Trumps points are acknowledged in Congress, they're saying basically these problems have always existed so move on, thats not a denial... for the secretary of state to say what Trump says is not true is simply a denial of reality. We've all seen the videos of the ballots being pulled out from beneath the table (unless it was CGI, but let's not got into conspiracy realms) we all saw the spikes in Biden votes on election night and we've all seen live on CNN where Trumps votes decreased and Bidens increased in real time... before our very own eyes... we all know that ballots were recieved from the dead and double votes and votes from other states... its undeniable. Is that enough to overturn an election, probably not but to say it didn't happen is just denial of reality. He's not deluded to point it out, it should be pointed out and it should be fixed for the next election, if not the free world isn't a fair one and that isn't a democracy that we all seem to love so much.

That's what you posted the other day regarding Trumps phone call with the Georgia Sec of State. You're pedaling a lot of conspiracy theories in that one paragraph all of which have been debunked.
Who exactly has "debunked" them Pat? Main stream media? LOL
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jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:59 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:43 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:54 pm
I never said you did, don't get a complex... you know the type though.

You can think of me what you like, I'm not fussed, it's in your head not mine. I enjoy them, so I've posted them... I also once changed the brake pads on the Mrs car and enjoyed that too but I'm defo no mechanic.
I didn't for a second think that was aimed at me James, if it was then that would make you very passive aggressive and I know you don't like labels

Its not about what I think its about what you've posted, there's a difference between enjoying them an believing them, and you've proven many times that you believe them.


jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:51 pm
I also don't know what that Secretary of state is saying isn't true, most of Trumps points are acknowledged in Congress, they're saying basically these problems have always existed so move on, thats not a denial... for the secretary of state to say what Trump says is not true is simply a denial of reality. We've all seen the videos of the ballots being pulled out from beneath the table (unless it was CGI, but let's not got into conspiracy realms) we all saw the spikes in Biden votes on election night and we've all seen live on CNN where Trumps votes decreased and Bidens increased in real time... before our very own eyes... we all know that ballots were recieved from the dead and double votes and votes from other states... its undeniable. Is that enough to overturn an election, probably not but to say it didn't happen is just denial of reality. He's not deluded to point it out, it should be pointed out and it should be fixed for the next election, if not the free world isn't a fair one and that isn't a democracy that we all seem to love so much.

That's what you posted the other day regarding Trumps phone call with the Georgia Sec of State. You're pedaling a lot of conspiracy theories in that one paragraph all of which have been debunked.
So it makes me a conspiracy theorist to believe what I've seen with my own eyes and to listen to what has been recognised as did happen by Congress? Most of which have been debunked isn't all have been debunked (maybe I'm a semi conspiracy theorist) It is a fact that ballots were recieved from dead people and that people voted twice and unless it was all an illusion the spike in votes were also real, the cause of which was apparently human error (if you remember) so it happend... then as for the ballots from under the table I recognised that could have been cgi but also that I didn't want to get into conspiracy realms.

We could debate it all day long but the issue is that if something doesn't fit what you believe then it simply isn't a possibility, so it would be pointless.

Like I've said, you can label me as you see fit, it makes zero difference to me.. ill be james the conspiracy theorist if it pleases you.
To back up that you're right Pat and I am indeed a conspiracy theorist here is me and Congress spewing the same conspiracy.

https://youtu.be/EXminByXWq4

You'll notice that dead people did vote and people voted twice... its a fact, not a conspiracy.

I know it's longer than a Tik Tok video but I'm sure you'll manage 8 mins.
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i think it was about 100 pages ago that some wise man said that you'll never sway the opinions of the entrenched...

dig in, it's going to be another 100 pages -lol
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:05 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:21 pm
Euler wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:18 pm


I linked to that article because my guy, who works in the legislature in Washingston, said that was what is going to happen. He already knows what is going to happen.
Fair enough if that is what your contact says. Ive heard from people a bit higher up than that, and i get a very different story! Time will tell! :-)
What do you mean by a bit higher up? Pay grade? Authority? Euler didn't even say what position this guy has so you must be talking through your arse.

I heard from big chief - ruler of the universe, he said Biden's won - end of argument. :)
Derek do try to pay attention. Euler said "I linked to that article because my guy, who works in the legislature in Washingston" . Maybe you didnt have your glasses on? So it looks like you are the one talking out your ass. The people who i listen to are far higher up the food chain. They are on youtube , if you ever bother to look. Which, because you dont like doing actual research, somehow, i doubt you will!
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jimibt wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:12 pm
i think it was about 100 pages ago that some wise man said that you'll never sway the opinions of the entrenched...

dig in, it's going to be another 100 pages -lol
I think it was churchill who said something like: a fanatic is someone who won't change his mind and wont change the topic of conversation
knightwire2
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Kai wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:03 pm
Euler wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:37 pm
Mike Pence will probably want a shot at president himself at some point in the future.
Don't see it happening, I think Lord of the Flies already holds a credible enough title.
Yep, Pence was one of those who got an envelope at Bush Snr's funeral. My guess is he got demoted months ago after the squark call sign from his plane apparently changed mid flight, indicating his "status" had changed. Probably replaced with a body double, or clone, which may explain why he didnt notice the fly on his head in the debates. The email chain between him and Paul Ryan back in late 2016 would probably help explain why his status changed
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:22 pm
Kai wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:03 pm
Euler wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:37 pm
Mike Pence will probably want a shot at president himself at some point in the future.
Don't see it happening, I think Lord of the Flies already holds a credible enough title.
Yep, Pence was one of those who got an envelope at Bush Snr's funeral. My guess is he got demoted months ago after the squark call sign from his plane apparently changed mid flight, indicating his "status" had changed. Probably replaced with a body double, or clone, which may explain why he didnt notice the fly on his head in the debates. The email chain between him and Paul Ryan back in late 2016 would probably help explain why his status changed
Yes, that is uh.. what I meant. I have done my research and I'm not just spouting random nonsense 👍
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knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:17 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:05 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:21 pm


Fair enough if that is what your contact says. Ive heard from people a bit higher up than that, and i get a very different story! Time will tell! :-)
What do you mean by a bit higher up? Pay grade? Authority? Euler didn't even say what position this guy has so you must be talking through your arse.

I heard from big chief - ruler of the universe, he said Biden's won - end of argument. :)
Derek do try to pay attention. Euler said "I linked to that article because my guy, who works in the legislature in Washingston" . Maybe you didnt have your glasses on? So it looks like you are the one talking out your ass. The people who i listen to are far higher up the food chain. They are on youtube , if you ever bother to look. Which, because you dont like doing actual research, somehow, i doubt you will!
Euler has around 1000 YouTube videos so guess that puts him further up the food chain than all the guys and gals in Washington
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Euler wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:17 pm
CNN are currently running through what will happen with the process today.
CNN - the place to turn to when we want to know the truth about everything! (cough cough)

Isnt that the program (your mind) that fake Chris Cumo works for? Ya know, the guy who preteneded to have covid whilst at the same time he was shouting a foul mouthed rant at someone who saw him out walking his dog? Oh yeh. Or Anderson Cooper, son of some Lady Vanderbilt or someone, worth MILLIONS. Why on earth would such rich people be working as a news anchor, i wonder? Anyway, such a truthful bunch of people.
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Kai wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:24 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:22 pm
Kai wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:03 pm


Don't see it happening, I think Lord of the Flies already holds a credible enough title.
Yep, Pence was one of those who got an envelope at Bush Snr's funeral. My guess is he got demoted months ago after the squark call sign from his plane apparently changed mid flight, indicating his "status" had changed. Probably replaced with a body double, or clone, which may explain why he didnt notice the fly on his head in the debates. The email chain between him and Paul Ryan back in late 2016 would probably help explain why his status changed
Yes, that is uh.. what I meant. I have done my research and I'm not just spouting random nonsense 👍
Looks like you and I, Kai, and James, are the only ones who can see through the brainwashing!
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Dallas wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:24 pm
knightwire2 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:17 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:05 pm

What do you mean by a bit higher up? Pay grade? Authority? Euler didn't even say what position this guy has so you must be talking through your arse.

I heard from big chief - ruler of the universe, he said Biden's won - end of argument. :)
Derek do try to pay attention. Euler said "I linked to that article because my guy, who works in the legislature in Washingston" . Maybe you didnt have your glasses on? So it looks like you are the one talking out your ass. The people who i listen to are far higher up the food chain. They are on youtube , if you ever bother to look. Which, because you dont like doing actual research, somehow, i doubt you will!
Euler has around 1000 YouTube videos so guess that puts him further up the food chain than all the guys and gals in Washington
OMG a thousand youtube videos! I prefer to listen to those who decode military intelligence drops than listen to someone who listens to CNN! :-)
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jamesg46 wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:12 pm

To back up that you're right Pat and I am indeed a conspiracy theorist here is me and Congress spewing the same conspiracy.

https://youtu.be/EXminByXWq4

You'll notice that dead people did vote and people voted twice... its a fact, not a conspiracy.

I know it's longer than a Tik Tok video but I'm sure you'll manage 8 mins.
Ok....

As for ballots being pulled from under the table thats standard counting procedure... don't take my word for it here's a tweet from the Georgia VSI manager. Who by the way is a Republican:

https://twitter.com/GabrielSterling/sta ... 33217?s=20


As for the dead voting there were 2 votes attributed to dead people not 5000 like Trump claimed. That's verified by Raffensperger again a Republican.

As for voters from other states there were none. Confirmed by Ryan Germany who I think was on the call.

People voting twice there were 1000 confirmed cases according to Raffensperger but he said he believed the vast majority or them were errors and not a deliberate attempt to vote twice. He went on to say that all of them will be investigated with potential criminal charges for those who intended to play the system. All of the 1000 votes are void and the real kicker most of the votes were cast for Republlican candidates probably because Trump called on voters to vote twice.

The spike in votes for Biden when Trump got none was a data entry error apparently so I'll give you that one.

As for congress agreeing with you 1 Republican member of congress is not Congress as a whole.
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