Unfortunately Alex you're preaching to minds that don't repect their own intuitive signals.... they're soaked in msm narrative. Brains are like sponges, they absorb the popular surrounding. I have a great deal of respect that you're standing up for what you actually see, rather than what you're told to see. If only more people actually opened their eyes.alexmr2 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:57 pmI don't deny those diseases and effective treatments for them exist, I just think there's enough data to see that this Covid-19 virus is no threat to over 99% of the population. I think people need to relearn to accept a degree of risk, a similar risk to the flu which has always been around. The response is such an overreaction that it's obvious that there is something more to it e.g. an economic or sustainability agenda, not a health crisis.
I'm not going to advise people whether to get the vaccine or not. I formed my opinion from research and the experience of others that it's unneccessary and contains more potential risk than the virus itself
Coronavirus - A pale horse,4 men and ....beer
"I formed my opinion from research and the experience of others".jamesg46 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:01 pmUnfortunately Alex you're preaching to minds that don't repect their own intuitive signals.... they're soaked in msm narrative. Brains are like sponges, they absorb the popular surrounding. I have a great deal of respect that you're standing up for what you actually see, rather than what you're told to see. If only more people actually opened their eyes.alexmr2 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:57 pmI don't deny those diseases and effective treatments for them exist, I just think there's enough data to see that this Covid-19 virus is no threat to over 99% of the population. I think people need to relearn to accept a degree of risk, a similar risk to the flu which has always been around. The response is such an overreaction that it's obvious that there is something more to it e.g. an economic or sustainability agenda, not a health crisis.
I'm not going to advise people whether to get the vaccine or not. I formed my opinion from research and the experience of others that it's unneccessary and contains more potential risk than the virus itself
Let's hear it then.
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Trader Pat
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Taking on Alex & James? And after 10pm too?
Braver man than me Greenmark
A discussion isn't "taken on" anybody, unless you're tribal.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:17 pm
Taking on Alex & James? And after 10pm too?
Braver man than me Greenmark
Correlation isn't neccessarily causation, but the statistics and stories of Covid breakouts in carehomes since the vaccine rollout began aren't showing it to be very effective.greenmark wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:19 pmThe vaccine has been administered to 13 million. With vaccines adverse reactions happen rapidly. So far absolutely no bad reports. AND those people are now much less likely to contract the virus. And that's a fact established by highly qualified professionals.
But also flu vaccination happens every year, specifically to reduce deaths. Lockdowns were the solution in the absence of vaccines. What's so difficult to understand?
Economic agenda? Can you not see the economic cost of this? There is no advantage to anyone. Even the PPE makers are facing reducing supply as demand drops. Ditto logistics companies, possibly even the likes of Amazon when people return to the high street.
The govt has to strike a balance between a tanking economy and the suicidal political decision to do nothing. And believe me it would be political suicide to let the virus rip.
I'm not saying the vaccine is designed to intentionally harm people but the first dose supresses the immune system for around 1 week and this isn't being clearly advertised. If someone contracts the virus in this period it can be even worse. The long term effects of this new mRNA treatment are unknown and usually everything in life must be paid for by some sort of tradeoff or side effect. Inducing immune system responses seems unneccessary and bad in the long term. When big money is involved scepticism shouldn't be a bad thing
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There's not much point in dispensing medical advice unless you quote the source, Dr Alex. Nobody's going to trust you. I thought you suggested its sole purpose was to plant the Bill Gate chip, in which case, why would it even affect your immune system? After all, it's not a vaccine.
One of the most important things I learnt about coronavirus was, that the fear of losing your life can actually be your biggest obstacle to living it!
See many parallels between trading and pandemic responses I do
See many parallels between trading and pandemic responses I do
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Not comparable. If you risk £10 that is the absolute limit to your risk, so you can weigh it against your potential gain and probability of it. You can't lose you're life savings nor can anyone else.
If I caught covid last year, statistically I'm not likely to need hospital treatment but my mother and half the residents in her care home could have died from it if I passed it on.
I guess you think that doesn't matter because they're all over 65 with health problems and might die anyway?
Spot on! Well said.Derek27 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:58 amNot comparable. If you risk £10 that is the absolute limit to your risk, so you can weigh it against your potential gain and probability of it. You can't lose you're life savings nor can anyone else.
If I caught covid last year, statistically I'm not likely to need hospital treatment but my mother and half the residents in her care home could have died from it if I passed it on.
I guess you think that doesn't matter because they're all over 65 with health problems and might die anyway?
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I tried home delivery when it was in it's early stages and decided never to buy fresh foods that way again. It seemed to me that they used it as an excuse to get rid of all the poor quality food that they knew would not sell on the shelf! I would be happy to use delivery for non-fresh food but if I then have to go there to shop for fresh food I might as well shop for it all