https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... xt-winter/jimibt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:49 pmwas wondering where you sourced this as (altho maybe true), it flies at odds with what he said on the Andrew Marr show yesterday - a small section quoted here: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sage ... 20636.html
Coronavirus - A pale horse,4 men and ....beer
The unrealistic conspiracy theories like flat earth and mind control vaccines are either believed by people that are nuts or fabricated to gaslight the critical thinkers/sceptics/vaccine hesistant and put them into the same category as the far fetched conspiracy theorists. That means the general public start to associate anyone who is vaccine cautious (due to potential long term health side effects) with being nuts because they must also believe that the earth is flat.
Like someone linked above nothing is black and white. I think it's perfectly reasonable to be sceptical of the irrational lockdown logic and taking a rushed vaccine when you weigh up all the pros and cons, chance of dying without it etc. If the survival rate was under 90% amongst my age group I would be much more inclined to avoid the virus and take a vaccine
thanks...alexmr2 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:57 pmhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... xt-winter/jimibt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:49 pmwas wondering where you sourced this as (altho maybe true), it flies at odds with what he said on the Andrew Marr show yesterday - a small section quoted here: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sage ... 20636.html
But you said the vaccine contains a mind-controlling chip that will make you lose all your money on Betfair?alexmr2 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:08 pmThe unrealistic conspiracy theories like flat earth and mind control vaccines are either believed by people that are nuts or fabricated to gaslight the critical thinkers/sceptics/vaccine hesistant and put them into the same category as the far fetched conspiracy theorists. That means the general public start to associate anyone who is vaccine cautious (due to potential long term health side effects) with being nuts because they must also believe that the earth is flat.
Like someone linked above nothing is black and white. I think it's perfectly reasonable to be sceptical of the irrational lockdown logic and taking a rushed vaccine when you weigh up all the pros and cons, chance of dying without it etc. If the survival rate was under 90% amongst my age group I would be much more inclined to avoid the virus and take a vaccine
There's a world of difference between being cautious about having a liquid injected into you and beliving everybody in the world is conspiring against you or that a mind-controlling chip that only exists in science fiction is contained in a vaccine.
There's also the issue of thinking about other people. Just because you're relatively safe, you need to think of the older and more vulnerable people.
https://youtu.be/_nvfQw8UCDE?t=63
That is exactly rightalexmr2 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:08 pmThe unrealistic conspiracy theories like flat earth and mind control vaccines are either believed by people that are nuts or fabricated to gaslight the critical thinkers/sceptics/vaccine hesistant and put them into the same category as the far fetched conspiracy theorists. That means the general public start to associate anyone who is vaccine cautious (due to potential long term health side effects) with being nuts because they must also believe that the earth is flat.
Like someone linked above nothing is black and white. I think it's perfectly reasonable to be sceptical of the irrational lockdown logic and taking a rushed vaccine when you weigh up all the pros and cons, chance of dying without it etc. If the survival rate was under 90% amongst my age group I would be much more inclined to avoid the virus and take a vaccine
Six of one, half a dozen of another. There's no golden bullet so you'll always find flaws in any solution but the flu doesn't cause pneumonia to the extent that covid does.alexmr2 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:57 pmhttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... xt-winter/jimibt wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:49 pmwas wondering where you sourced this as (altho maybe true), it flies at odds with what he said on the Andrew Marr show yesterday - a small section quoted here: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sage ... 20636.html
...some people want to believe all sorts of things - who cares, let them - we're not short of sane people on this earth so if a few million go 'Waco' it doesn't really matter.
Let them believe their bs, like these Trump betting losers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ISWW33POkc (Fintan Dunne)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gc-MMYjzfQ (Mark Attwood)
Let them believe their bs, like these Trump betting losers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ISWW33POkc (Fintan Dunne)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gc-MMYjzfQ (Mark Attwood)
Covid vaccines - 'spectacular' impact on serious illness
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56153600
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56153600
Traffic was backed up left right and centre around there on Friday when I went past, looked quiet Sat & SunTuco wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:55 pm...just back from Epsom Racecourse where I received an AstraZeneca Covid-19 jab - very efficient service - received an invite on Saturday morning and landed a 'fastest finger' as I'd booked for 13:10 today within 30 seconds
Thought I'd better book for Monday in case I feel rough for a few days, and if so, should be OK by the weekend
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Merseyside Police was forced to clarify that “being offensive is not an offence” after a local policing team shared an “incorrect” statement stating the opposite on the side of a van in Wirral.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/m ... 20760.html
Look at the clowns, they don't even know their own laws.
You'd have thought they might have better things to do, like giving people fines for sitting on a park bench, important stuff like that!
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/m ... 20760.html
Look at the clowns, they don't even know their own laws.
You'd have thought they might have better things to do, like giving people fines for sitting on a park bench, important stuff like that!
Shouldn't this be in Rant Corner?superfrank wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:27 pmMerseyside Police was forced to clarify that “being offensive is not an offence” after a local policing team shared an “incorrect” statement stating the opposite on the side of a van in Wirral.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/m ... 20760.html
Look at the clowns, they don't even know their own laws.
You'd have thought they might have better things to do, like giving people fines for sitting on a park bench, important stuff like that!
Anyway, I take your point, but would suggest allowing our hard-pressed frontline services deserve some latitude. Mistakes have/will be made in these weird times but I would defend all front line workers. The list of selfless people is as long as your arm and I salute them.
The more you salute the tyrants, the more freedoms they take.greenmark wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:04 pmShouldn't this be in Rant Corner?superfrank wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:27 pmMerseyside Police was forced to clarify that “being offensive is not an offence” after a local policing team shared an “incorrect” statement stating the opposite on the side of a van in Wirral.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/m ... 20760.html
Look at the clowns, they don't even know their own laws.
You'd have thought they might have better things to do, like giving people fines for sitting on a park bench, important stuff like that!
Anyway, I take your point, but would suggest allowing our hard-pressed frontline services deserve some latitude. Mistakes have/will be made in these weird times but I would defend all front line workers. The list of selfless people is as long as your arm and I salute them.
Rights like freedom of speech, peaceful protesting and a private home (need a warrant and evidence to enter) will soon be a thing of the past, or should I say already are
Let us know of any side effects. I reckon I'll get jab one mid-april. I can't wait tbh.Tuco wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:55 pm...just back from Epsom Racecourse where I received an AstraZeneca Covid-19 jab - very efficient service - received an invite on Saturday morning and landed a 'fastest finger' as I'd booked for 13:10 today within 30 seconds
Thought I'd better book for Monday in case I feel rough for a few days, and if so, should be OK by the weekend
So, the ambulance driver and paramedic that picks you up from the roadside when you have a serious accident and the NHS workers who treat you in A&E are now tyrants?alexmr2 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:30 pmThe more you salute the tyrants, the more freedoms they take.greenmark wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:04 pmShouldn't this be in Rant Corner?superfrank wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:27 pmMerseyside Police was forced to clarify that “being offensive is not an offence” after a local policing team shared an “incorrect” statement stating the opposite on the side of a van in Wirral.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/m ... 20760.html
Look at the clowns, they don't even know their own laws.
You'd have thought they might have better things to do, like giving people fines for sitting on a park bench, important stuff like that!
Anyway, I take your point, but would suggest allowing our hard-pressed frontline services deserve some latitude. Mistakes have/will be made in these weird times but I would defend all front line workers. The list of selfless people is as long as your arm and I salute them.
Rights like freedom of speech, peaceful protesting and a private home (need a warrant and evidence to enter) will soon be a thing of the past, or should I say already are