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Trader Pat wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:46 pm
Derek27 wrote:
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Trader Pat wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:40 pm


Mind me asking how old you are Tuco?

I only ask because I got a call from my mothers GP 3 weeks asking if she wanted to be put on the list for a jab, she's 82.

Haven't heard anything back yet, but we're obviously slower rolling out the jab here in Ireland than in the UK.
My older brother's in his fifties and he's been offered an appointment, in London. They're moving pretty quick now.

That's impressive!
...early fifties (and my mate is 47 next week!) I really wasn't expecting the text last Saturday but was pleased to receive it - I assumed there was some spare capacity they were trying to fill, but it seems they're simply getting on with the tier 5-9's all in one go having 'completed' tiers 1-4.
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Tuco wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:00 am
...early fifties (and my mate is 47 next week!) I really wasn't expecting the text last Saturday but was pleased to receive it - I assumed there was some spare capacity they were trying to fill, but it seems they're simply getting on with the tier 5-9's all in one go having 'completed' tiers 1-4.
The UK government seem to be getting their act together regarding the rollout at least
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Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:15 am
Tuco wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:00 am
...early fifties (and my mate is 47 next week!) I really wasn't expecting the text last Saturday but was pleased to receive it - I assumed there was some spare capacity they were trying to fill, but it seems they're simply getting on with the tier 5-9's all in one go having 'completed' tiers 1-4.
The UK government seem to be getting their act together regarding the rollout at least
Agree. BJ's responsible for all the cockups but we'll give the UK government credit where due. :D
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Covid vaccines cut risk of serious illness by 80%
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56240220

Yeehaaa!! Get in!! Back of the net!!! etc
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If that wally who tested positive for covid but forgot to put his name and address on the form had the same teachers as I did he'd never have made that mistake. ;)
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Sunak's budget a cop out. Corbyn could have produced it.

He should have slashed spending and tackled the bloated sacred cow that is the NHS (and the public sector in general) - that's what Mrs Thatcher would have done, and rightly so.

Prepare for European style stagnation.
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superfrank wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:43 pm
Sunak's budget a cop out. Corbyn could have produced it.

He should have slashed spending and tackled the bloated sacred cow that is the NHS (and the public sector in general) - that's what Mrs Thatcher would have done, and rightly so.

Prepare for European style stagnation.
Not much of a concern for these people in charge who are nearing retirement and laughing all the way to the bank regardless of what happens next. The next generations will pay it back. Coincidentally the same generations suffering the most from the restrictions (kids-graduates) missing out on developing physically, mentally, socially and of course had their education, career or business disrupted and dreams crushed
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Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:36 pm
Not much of a concern for these people in charge who are nearing retirement and laughing all the way to the bank regardless of what happens next.
Indeed.

Is this kind of stuff a valid use of public money by the NHS (in the middle of a pandemic)?!

https://twitter.com/NHS_HealthEdEng/sta ... 3732851714

https://youtu.be/5n1pRLtdLFs

The state is out of control. If a Tory govt. with an 80-seat majority won't do anything to rein them in, then we really are going to hell in a handcart.
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BJ's rewarded the nurses who saved his life with a 1% pay rise, less than half of that if you factor in inflation. :lol:
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superfrank wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:10 pm
alexmr2 wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:36 pm
Not much of a concern for these people in charge who are nearing retirement and laughing all the way to the bank regardless of what happens next.
Indeed.

Is this kind of stuff a valid use of public money by the NHS (in the middle of a pandemic)?!

https://twitter.com/NHS_HealthEdEng/sta ... 3732851714

https://youtu.be/5n1pRLtdLFs

The state is out of control. If a Tory govt. with an 80-seat majority won't do anything to rein them in, then we really are going to hell in a handcart.
I think it all comes down to decades of unsustainable greed which will probably never be eradicated by humans. One of the examples that comes to mind was a few years back when Carillion was charging the NHS £70 to change a lightbulb/£20 to refill hand sanitiser boxes, obviously going into someones back pocket along the way when the taxpayer is getting such bad value at the end of the day. it's basically legalised money laundering on a large scale
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alexmr2 wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:23 am
I think it all comes down to decades of unsustainable greed which will probably never be eradicated by humans. One of the examples that comes to mind was a few years back when Carillion was charging the NHS £70 to change a lightbulb/£20 to refill hand sanitiser boxes, obviously going into someones back pocket along the way when the taxpayer is getting such bad value at the end of the day. it's basically legalised money laundering on a large scale
I suspect you could provide better public services at half the cost if they were properly run and had the politics, corruption and waste weeded out.

Of course the lazy solution of socialists is always to simply throw good money after bad. Sadly this government is no better.
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I've thought (and said) for a long time the way to cut down the massive waste in an organisation like the NHS is to employ people good at just that - Jim Ratcliffe (Ineos) made his fortune being good at just that and spotting the opportunities.

Surely you could get a team of people like Jim Ratcliffe or Alan Sugar and the like to spend a year looking at and weeding out the NHS wastage. The NHS used to cost £120bn per year and I've always thought such people could save £40bn of that - give them half so that they are paid for their expertise and efforts.

In the first year the NHS would save £20bn and thereafter (until there are new fingers in the pies) it would save £40bn! Simple economics! Of course there would be those thinking it's abhorrent for a team to make £20bn in a year, but they would actually be saving the NHS £20bn in the first year.
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superfrank wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:43 pm
Sunak's budget a cop out. Corbyn could have produced it.

He should have slashed spending and tackled the bloated sacred cow that is the NHS (and the public sector in general) - that's what Mrs Thatcher would have done, and rightly so.

Prepare for European style stagnation.
No backbone, just look at the Rashford saga
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Sky News announced zero covid deaths for today before later reporting it as erroneous. It should have been obvious people don't stop dying because it's Sunday!
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Deaths down to double figures now. Feels a bit ironic to say only 65 people died yesterday. :)
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