Credibility

[Euler]

I don't pay PC

You don't??? I say, old bean! I must express my astonishment of your claim!

I propose a motion to ban this impostor at once!!!!!

If you dig a big enough hole....
I'd paid a shed load of commission before I made net profitable and I'm still at about 45% comm/gross lifetime.
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When I next get asked how long does it take to get profitable I can point people here and say up to 18 years.

Well done for turning it around. I was encouraging DoctorC on twitter over a year ago to pursue that aim. He had also had been negative for ages and has turned it around in a year. I love a good turnaround story!

[ShaunWhite]

I remember you mentioning you were gambling before and had a heavy loss, thereby not paying PC.

Back in the days I had a well paying but dull job I'd just spunk mug money on Betfair all day out of boredom and it added up. Plus my terrible first try at trading in about 06 with some 4 figure losses. I was using some crappy software called STW back then and knowledge was hard to find too. When Lehmans had their meltdown work and money dried up and I didn't have a bet for 10yrs. It was a happy day I broke lifetime even and got it back though.

[jamesg46]

You don't??? I say, old bean! I must express my astonishment of your claim!

I propose a motion to ban this impostor at once!!!!!

If you dig a big enough hole....
I'd paid a shed load of commission before I made net profitable and I'm still at about 45% comm/gross lifetime.
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I remember you mentioning you were gambling before and had a heavy loss, thereby not paying PC. That's the first thing I thought of when I saw LeTiss's post.

PC isn't the be all and end all. A Martingaler could be paying PC. You generally get a feel for who's talking sense by the nature and detail of their posts and how they respond to questions if suggestions are challenged. On top of that you'd have 40% PC payers who aren't fussed about the McDonald's gold star and don't bother sending in their proof.

LeTiss's kudos idea is plausible but it would only be useful to newbies if forumites used it only for trading specific matters and not because a forumite (who could potentially be a good trader) is talking utter bollocks about a non-trading matter, being impolite, etc.

I agree with you completely. The idea LeTiss put forward is imo a really good one. Sure it has some downside, I mean there is people who just hit like on every response no matter what, & it could be skewed towards liking the actual person but overall I think good content will get more likes.. therefore creating an area where we can search for content by most likes could help keep golden nuggets at the front end of the forum, rather than me behaving like a child.

I'm not so sure about a credibility system but if others think it's good then so be it. I think it haa potential to create division, a 2 group structure, the credibles & the fodder type situation... you're not credible so what you say doesn't hold weight attitude will almost certainly be created imo. Internally within the structure too, I pay more than you do so my opinion holds more credibility, I make that assumption because proving what you make will naturally create an invisible type list of top earners in comparison to bottom earners.

This is all I'm going to say on the matter, I don't want to argue, it's just my opinion & if others have different views I'll respectfully keep an open mind. Whatever happens, I can see the intention is to simply help improve content & I'm sure the team will make the right choice, they seem to have a proven record in good/positive improvements.

[sniffer66]

My suggestion was purely designed to identify to new arrivals the people who do this successfully, and therefore are worth listening to

One way I suppose is to allow us to like posts!
The one thing I have noticed with Bet Angel forum over the years, is that fantastic little nuggets quite often get lost in amongst large threads
Having an ability to like posts will help us all find really good comments that have escaped our attention

I'd like this post, if I was able

[ShaunWhite]

I love a good turnaround story!

I've since realised it's about going down slowly enough so a turnaround doesn't take a lifetime. And my old chestnut... "don't run out of money before you run out of lessons" On trading try #1 I was done before I'd sussed the basics.

[ShaunWhite]

Am I sensing a breakout of good will to all men? After the recent arguments the make-up sex is gonna be out of this world!

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[Derek27]

This would have been on the rant thread if it wasn't relevant, but I've just got an email from Accu asking me if I like my 65mm M10 hex bolts and if I'd like to give a positive review on their site. FFS, they're just bolts, what can I say except they fit an M10 nut and haven't broken after two months!!

[jamesg46]

Am I sensing a breakout of good will to all men? After the recent arguments the make-up sex is gonna be out of this world!
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Maybe. I don't want spend time around negative environments as much as anyone else. So with that in mind it was only natural that I'd have enough of me at some point, considering if I'm to be honest, I was the main cause.

[Kai]

Wouldn't a class system invite more classism and lead to more tension and bickering overall?

Wasn't all the bickering completely unrelated to trading?

Isn't most of the forum advice generally in alignment anyway with the very few exceptions getting challenged or corrected right away?

[ShaunWhite]

Just noticing that one sign of doing OK is which people who have too much time on their hands

I'm foolish saying I do OK at this, I'm only ever one market shift away from heading down again. I envy you manual guys who can just play what you see rather than having to throwing your whole idea in the bin and starting again.

Incidentally that's why I favour seeing trading as value seeking (just lots of back and lays) rather than sentiment/movement seeking. Value should be an earner whatever happens and work on everything from greyhounds to Bulgarian ping pong. Auto is suited to that job too whereas it impossible to automated how a manual trader operates, even AI can't figure that out which is either high praise for the manual guys or a reflection on how limited AI is still.

[Trader Pat]

Back in the days I had a well paying but dull job I'd just spunk mug money on Betfair all day out of boredom and it added up. Plus my terrible first try at trading in about 06 with some 4 figure losses. I was using some crappy software called STW back then and knowledge was hard to find too. When Lehmans had their meltdown work and money dried up and I didn't have a bet for 10yrs. It was a happy day I broke lifetime even and got it back though.

That's how I started on Betfair. When I got paid at the end of the month I'd set aside a set amount for Betfair and just mug punt, had some crazy rollercoaster rides! Did it like that for almost a year and pretty much broke even but looking back I don't think I enjoyed a single second of, when you win you just feel relief rather than enjoyment. The lows felt lower than the highs felt high, if that makes sense. I generated quite a bit of commission though so that came in handy down the line.

Hopefully the 'like button' suggestion is implemented, it would be good if a year or two down the line you were able to see what the most liked posts were on the forum, and maybe be able to see most popular posts by month, year & all time.

I think if there is to be a thumbs up option there should also be a thumbs down option for the sake of balance.

[ShaunWhite]

I was the main cause.

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[wearthefoxhat]

Am I sensing a breakout of good will to all men? After the recent arguments the make-up sex is gonna be out of this world!
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Something for everyone....

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[Derek27]

Wouldn't a class system invite more classism and lead to more tension and bickering overall?

Wasn't all the bickering completely unrelated to trading?

Isn't most of the forum advice generally in alignment anyway with the very few exceptions getting challenged or corrected right away?

That's a fair point. When you look at some of the Martingale threads you wouldn't need a thumbs up/down system to summarize.

[Kai]

Too soon for memes lads? I think Peter/Dallas would like more feedback and for the forum to reach a rough consensus at least, on any potential upgrades etc.

Wouldn't a class system invite more classism and lead to more tension and bickering overall?

Wasn't all the bickering completely unrelated to trading?

Isn't most of the forum advice generally in alignment anyway with the very few exceptions getting challenged or corrected right away?

That's a fair point. When you look at some of the Martingale threads you wouldn't need a thumbs up/down system to summarize.

Just a few random questions really... But a simple like/dislike button wouldn't be of much use, what if a newbie sorts the posts by "likes" thinking he's going to find some trading nuggets but only finds memes or stupid jokes? Yikes, he'll be off back to matched betting the next day.

And an optional title below the username could be a decent idea, where forumites could put whatever they want like fulltimer or PC payer etc. This would give credit to those that deserve it the most and those that want it, while the newbies at least get an indication as to whose advice to pay more attention to and whose rants to completely ignore? Sorry about the last part, couldn't resist.