Trader Pat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:32 pm
Morbius wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:22 pm
OGS was somebody else who I thought shouldn't have got the job. A team like United should be aspiring to get back to where they were namely winning the league and three CL finals in 4 years between 2008-2011. I never saw how a manager like Moyes with one 4th place finish on his CV and an FA Cup final with Everton was going to deliver that. Ditto with OGS with Molde and Cardiff City on his. I think you're right about the owners, its about the money but for how long will the fan base wear that??? That fan base and subsequent value was built on on the field success and not top four and Europa League/CL last 16 exits. They can only keep this going for so long. 8 years since a title and 10 years since a CL final, they are living on past glories as it is and that's going to reflect on the players they can sign.
I had the same opinion of Ole, I thought he was out of his depth but he seems to have turned it around so it will be interesting to see how Utd get on next season. Moyes time was up at Utd when he said they weren't on the same level as Liverpool, the fans had the knives out as soon as he said that. Even if it was true you don't say something like that as coach of Utd.
If ever a man looked and sounded out of his depth it was Moyes. The stories from reliable sources coming out of that club are mind numbing. Players had no respect for him and one of the stories that got leaked was in how he took the defenders to one side in training and made them watch footage of Phil Jagielka as a benchmark for how to defend certain types of situations. Can you imagine Rio Ferdinand's reaction to that??? Moyes level can be summed up in two words...Marouane Fellaini. Then they were stuck with him because the level that they had slipped to he could do a job at that level and be useful but talk about cause and effect
United do not deserve their fan base IMO because fans want success and they have sold them short on numerous occasions. If they want to be called a "stellar club" at the same status as Real Madrid, Barcelona etc etc then they need to start performing on the pitch and getting the right people in and spending the money. But to be honest I think its got so bad now that spending money isn't enough. Its going to take a slow build if at all but at least they can mug the fans off for a few seasons in the hope that they are building towards something. Real, Bayern, Barcelona don't end up like this when they change managers but that's a difference in owner mentality. There were catastrophic decisions made in 2013-14 that United are now paying the price for.
