Statistic and football - Newbie doubt

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Takos45
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Hello! I've just approached football betting world and even though I have never liked or followed football as a sport, I really like the sport trading from a statistical point of view, and currently dedicating a big portion of my time to it.
I wonder if It's possible to be successful in the sport trading only looking at data and probabilities, without knowing a lot about the sport news (not being hugely interested in it)..
Anyone that is in the same situation? :D

thanks a bunch
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ShaunWhite
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Yep. 100% doable and more people make big money by just looking at the market numbers than looking at underlying fundamentals stats. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass about sport (except certain motorsports) or watch any.
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The Silk Run
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 5:25 pm
Yep. 100% doable and more people make big money by just looking at the market numbers than looking at underlying fundamentals stats. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass about sport (except certain motorsports) or watch any.
Shaun, really darling. How can you not like them little doggies running round the track after that little bunny :) You money mercenary you ...
Heal
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Its really hard to make money on sport. There are a lots of suprises in sport. I'm trying to make a bets but I'm making for example 2-3 games at one ticket. I'm trying to avoid to be greedy. That's a good way to make extra money. If you want to make a lot of monwey I belive you have to watch it game, tables, results, etc. It's hard but I belive you can make at least to pay your bills :-) and beer
Heal
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I just losst another bet Holland - Czecg republic :-) another suprise
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xtrader16
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Heal wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:42 pm
I just losst another bet Holland - Czecg republic :-) another suprise
I thought people who used Bat Angel were primarily traders the use of the word 'bet' leads me to believe you are a gambler. What was the bet or trade you placed maybe we can assist you in where you went wrong.
Heal
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well . I'm not a gambler like gambling all the time , just there was a euro 2021 so I decided to make few bets. I know is addicctive and you can loose a lot of money. I have tried to to trade but its not for me. I had my adventure with bitcoins as well, but I bought it in wrong time. I'm 40 years old and to be honest I don't really understand trades, terminology. I rather stay with sport betting. If you want I can delete account. Thank you
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darchas
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Heal wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:09 pm
well . I'm not a gambler like gambling all the time , just there was a euro 2021 so I decided to make few bets. I know is addicctive and you can loose a lot of money. I have tried to to trade but its not for me. I had my adventure with bitcoins as well, but I bought it in wrong time. I'm 40 years old and to be honest I don't really understand trades, terminology. I rather stay with sport betting. If you want I can delete account. Thank you
Defintely no need to delete your account! Looking to find value bets based on whatever stats you might like is perfectly valid and the forum has plenty of room for all sorts of approaches! :D You might learn stuff too that you might want to incorporate into your betting/trading or others might be inspired by whatever you may share.
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Kai
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Heal wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:42 pm
I just losst another bet Holland - Czecg republic :-) another suprise
I hope you're not just blindly backing all favorites :) You need value and positive expectancy (+EV) in your betting to make profit long term!

EDIT : I also hope you're not one of those forum bots, since your profile website links to a casino and shows different age than the one you shared :)
darchas wrote:
Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:42 pm
You might learn stuff too that you might want to incorporate into your betting/trading or others might be inspired by whatever you may share.
It's a shame the automation aspect is severely gimping the overall sharing but at least keeps the markets less competitive for much longer :)
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ShaunWhite
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So you bet on anything at any price simply because it's on, you care about individual results and think learning stops at 40. Either quit now or give us a heads-up next time you're having a bet so you at least know where you're money's gone. Anyone encouraging you must surely be acting in their own self-interest.
Heal
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not sure if my bets are valuable :-) I have pick up last four games before the final of EURO 2020 and I won. I don't want to give up, I'm not addicted , I don't spend all my money on bets, just a small amount. :-) I was addicted to cigarettes but I quit :-)
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MobiusGrey
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Heal wrote:
Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:28 pm
not sure if my bets are valuable :-) I have pick up last four games before the final of EURO 2020 and I won. I don't want to give up, I'm not addicted , I don't spend all my money on bets, just a small amount. :-) I was addicted to cigarettes but I quit :-)
Hi, value and strike rate are two different things. I'm not sure you understand the concept of value. As an example if you were betting on the toss of a coin and I offered you odds of 2.0 there is no value here as over the course of say 100 bets you will break even. That's because a coin flip is 50/50 heads/tails. Now if I was to offer you odds of 2.5 for tails you have a value bet.
Heal
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well you are right.
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