Lay Nominated Player if Break Early Guardian Automation Bot

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Thanks. Fixed odds rule sounds good.
I'm a little confused as to whether to select Current or Nominated for the fixed odds rule to apply to. Current appears to be row 1 betfair order, but doesn't that always mean the favourite? My intended player to lay may not always be the favourite. Does my question make sense? Am I imagining a problem that isn't really there?
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PeeBee74 wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:26 pm
Thanks. Fixed odds rule sounds good.
I'm a little confused as to whether to select Current or Nominated for the fixed odds rule to apply to. Current appears to be row 1 betfair order, but doesn't that always mean the favourite? My intended player to lay may not always be the favourite. Does my question make sense? Am I imagining a problem that isn't really there?
Current should have (Guardian nominated selection 1) after it as the lay bet rule is already applied to 'Guardian nominated selection 1'
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Cheers Dallas. I will use fixed odds anyway but if I only wanted to use this in sets 1 or 2 but not 3 (because of possible wild swings) how would I set that?
Also, last time it only got half the stake into the market (only £10, haven't changed anything) in a pretty liquid match. Any ideas why this happened and how it can be fixed?
Really appreciate your replies on this.
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PeeBee74 wrote:
Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:26 pm
Cheers Dallas. I will use fixed odds anyway but if I only wanted to use this in sets 1 or 2 but not 3 (because of possible wild swings) how would I set that?
Also, last time it only got half the stake into the market (only £10, haven't changed anything) in a pretty liquid match. Any ideas why this happened and how it can be fixed?
Really appreciate your replies on this.
There are several ways to do it, the best way for me would be to edit the current lay bet rules 'Fixed tennis score condition'
and change the sets from ANY to 0-0

Then duplicate that whole rule by clicking the icon with two green arrows then go into that condition and change the set score to 1-0
Then duplicate is again and change it to 0-1

A lay bet will be able to now trigger in the first set, or the second only

Regarding the unmatched bet you'd be very unlucky to not have the whole £10 matched but if its happening to offten you could change the 'Place at' option on the parameters tab and place the bet at 3rd best market price, that will give a greater chance of it all being matched but some of it may be a higher prices and the liability will be calculated on the price it was placed at.
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Once again thank you
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Hi again Dallas
I added a fixed odds condition (lay if price is below 1.9) but it didn't fire today in the cuevas v ymer match. Cuevas broke ymer in game 2 of set 2 but nothing happened. Cuevas was around 1.75 at hat point. Any ideas please?
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PeeBee74 wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:57 pm
Hi again Dallas
I added a fixed odds condition (lay if price is below 1.9) but it didn't fire today in the cuevas v ymer match. Cuevas broke ymer in game 2 of set 2 but nothing happened. Cuevas was around 1.75 at hat point. Any ideas please?
Can you send some screenshots of the lay bet rule for that player and i'll double check you have them right, or just post the rules file and i'll check that for you
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Thanks, have posted the rules file with my minimum odds amendment.
I also wondered about the rule that stops any action if it happens later in the set (before either player has won 3 games in the set I think according to your description). I set this up also to lay Govortsova today, but she didn't break her opponent until game 7, so wondered why that bet wasn't prevented? Lucky as it was a winning one, but still confused. Cheers
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PeeBee74 wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:23 pm
Thanks, have posted the rules file with my minimum odds amendment.
I also wondered about the rule that stops any action if it happens later in the set (before either player has won 3 games in the set I think according to your description). I set this up also to lay Govortsova today, but she didn't break her opponent until game 7, so wondered why that bet wasn't prevented? Lucky as it was a winning one, but still confused. Cheers
It looks like you've only added the Fixed odds condition so and not created the extra rules detailed in my previous post.

That said it should still have triggered as thats looks the only change from the original file.
Did you check if the scores where coming through from Betfair (ie, have the matches in the Watchlist) and notice if the markets in Guardian where being refreshed.
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Yes, I thoughtthe fixed odds rule was sufficient to deal with my concern about laying a set 1 loser at too big odds in set2.
I think betfair was a bit funny today so maybe that contributed to things, I'll, especially an eye.
Other than that, is the "early in the set" rule OK do you think, that it only triggers before either player gets to 3 games in the set (so no later than game 5)?
Thanks again
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PeeBee74 wrote:
Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:43 pm
Yes, I thoughtthe fixed odds rule was sufficient to deal with my concern about laying a set 1 loser at too big odds in set2.
I think betfair was a bit funny today so maybe that contributed to things, I'll, especially an eye.
Other than that, is the "early in the set" rule OK do you think, that it only triggers before either player gets to 3 games in the set (so no later than game 5)?
Thanks again
It will stop it laying the first set loser if the odds are to high, but it won't stop it triggering in later set
But if you are happy for it to trigger in any set (providing the odds are low enough) then its perfect as it is

The 3 games in a set is correctly set up, so it will stop the lay bet triggering if either player gets to 3 games
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Good stuff. Thanks for your patience
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Hi again Dallas
Sorry to keep on about this, but I am struggling with it. I've attached my own modified version of this - removed the reset rule so only S1 is traded, added lay only below 1.9, and expanded it to kick in for 4 games not 3. Other than that it's the same as your original I think.

This morning I nominated Sramkova. She broke Cristian in game 3 and the lay triggered fine.
As hoped she then was broken back straight away - but the back rule didn't fire and I lost out on a profit. I just can;t understand why.
The green up at end of set rule triggered later on giving me a small loss instead.
Any ideas gratefully received
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PeeBee74
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Could it just be a question of liquidity/gappy markets as it's a Challenger?
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Just noticed nothing fired at all on 2 other matches I had set this up on which would have won, and 2 matches backing the favourite if losing the 1st set which would have won. I despair
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