Ukraine Crisis

[Archery1969]

The US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) has now successfully tested hypersonic missiles travelling at Mach 5 or 3,600 miles per hour. This was completed in March but kept secret as not to antagonise Russia.

This will now be incorporated into the NATO missile defence system. Timeframe by end of 2022.

That means if Russia launches Nuclear hypersonic missiles then NATO stands a much better chance of intercepting them.

Although I have no idea what happens if there is a Nuclear explosion at 35,000 feet.

Hypersonic missiles are offensive, they won't stop incoming missiles.

It’s possible to intercept a hypersonic missile in its final, “terminal” moments of flight. That’s because a hypersonic missile is slower during its terminal phase than an ICBM is.

Well, that’s the theory, I guess we might find out sooner rather than later if it’s indeed true.

[Derek27]

The US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) has now successfully tested hypersonic missiles travelling at Mach 5 or 3,600 miles per hour. This was completed in March but kept secret as not to antagonise Russia.

This will now be incorporated into the NATO missile defence system. Timeframe by end of 2022.

That means if Russia launches Nuclear hypersonic missiles then NATO stands a much better chance of intercepting them.

Although I have no idea what happens if there is a Nuclear explosion at 35,000 feet.

Hypersonic missiles are offensive, they won't stop incoming missiles.

It’s possible to intercept a hypersonic missile in its final, “terminal” moments of flight. That’s because a hypersonic missile is slower during its terminal phase than an ICBM is.

Well, that’s the theory, I guess we might find out sooner rather than later if it’s indeed true.

You've got it the wrong way around - it's the initial phase when it's accelerating up to speed when it's slow and can be stopped. As well as being fast, "glide" missiles can bounce off the atmosphere and are manoeuvrable rather than taking a ballistic path so they're near impossible to stop. They're also surrounded by plasma due to their speed through the atmosphere, which makes them difficult to track with radar.

The best NATO can do is obliterate Russia's missile stocks and launch sites.

[Archery1969]

Hypersonic missiles are offensive, they won't stop incoming missiles.

It’s possible to intercept a hypersonic missile in its final, “terminal” moments of flight. That’s because a hypersonic missile is slower during its terminal phase than an ICBM is.

Well, that’s the theory, I guess we might find out sooner rather than later if it’s indeed true.

You've got it the wrong way around - it's the initial phase when it's accelerating up to speed when it's slow and can be stopped. As well as being fast, "glide" missiles can bounce off the atmosphere and are manoeuvrable rather than taking a ballistic path so they're near impossible to stop. They're also surrounded by plasma due to their speed through the atmosphere, which makes them difficult to track with radar.

The best NATO can do is obliterate Russia's missile stocks and launch sites.

What I put came from the US Airforce magazine forum. No idea if true or false.

[Trader Pat]

I posted a vid earlier in the thread of a retired American general on CNN saying they CANNOT be stopped or shot down once in flight. Can't imagine him saying that if it wasn't true; not because I don't think these people are capable of talking through their arse but because these Jarhead types are usually very "we can do anything because we are America" kind of muppets. So to acknowledge on tv that they don't have the capability to deal with these missiles really struck me.

[Archery1969]

I posted a vid earlier in the thread of a retired American general on CNN saying they CANNOT be stopped or shot down once in flight. Can't imagine him saying that if it wasn't true; not because I don't think these people are capable of talking through their arse but because these Jarhead types are usually very "we can do anything because we are America" kind of muppets. So to acknowledge on tv that they don't have the capability to deal with these missiles really struck me.

There are just as many in the military and some scientists who believe they can be shot down. A defence company was given $400 million in 2021 to look into it and they requested another $200 million in 2022. Testing was carried out in Nevada using microwave beam technology. The final outcome of those tests has not been made public. It may not of worked or did and the US don’t want Russia or the Chinese knowing about otherwise they may change their designs or technology. Who knows but I imagine we will all find out one way or the other.

[Derek27]

I posted a vid earlier in the thread of a retired American general on CNN saying they CANNOT be stopped or shot down once in flight. Can't imagine him saying that if it wasn't true; not because I don't think these people are capable of talking through their arse but because these Jarhead types are usually very "we can do anything because we are America" kind of muppets. So to acknowledge on tv that they don't have the capability to deal with these missiles really struck me.

There are just as many in the military and some scientists who believe they can be shot down. A defence company was given $400 million in 2021 to look into it and they requested another $200 million in 2022. Testing was carried out in Nevada using microwave beam technology. The final outcome of those tests has not been made public. It may not of worked or did and the US don’t want Russia or the Chinese knowing about otherwise they may change their designs or technology. Who knows but I imagine we will all find out one way or the other.

Wouldn't microwaves cook everybody in the vicinity?

The US and Isreal had a joint laser project that could burn through incoming missiles but they abandoned it as too expensive.

[Archery1969]

I posted a vid earlier in the thread of a retired American general on CNN saying they CANNOT be stopped or shot down once in flight. Can't imagine him saying that if it wasn't true; not because I don't think these people are capable of talking through their arse but because these Jarhead types are usually very "we can do anything because we are America" kind of muppets. So to acknowledge on tv that they don't have the capability to deal with these missiles really struck me.

There are just as many in the military and some scientists who believe they can be shot down. A defence company was given $400 million in 2021 to look into it and they requested another $200 million in 2022. Testing was carried out in Nevada using microwave beam technology. The final outcome of those tests has not been made public. It may not of worked or did and the US don’t want Russia or the Chinese knowing about otherwise they may change their designs or technology. Who knows but I imagine we will all find out one way or the other.

Wouldn't microwaves cook everybody in the vicinity?

The US and Isreal had a joint laser project that could burn through incoming missiles but they abandoned it as too expensive.

It’s based on a directed microwave energy. No idea how it works. I doubt it’s pin point accurate and you might be right that everything a mile either side gets fried from inside out. What ever it is it’s also expensive and uses a colossal amount of energy, apparently. I don’t think it’s portable.

[Trader Pat]

Wouldn't microwaves cook everybody in the vicinity?

Only on the outside

[Trader Pat]

I posted a vid earlier in the thread of a retired American general on CNN saying they CANNOT be stopped or shot down once in flight. Can't imagine him saying that if it wasn't true; not because I don't think these people are capable of talking through their arse but because these Jarhead types are usually very "we can do anything because we are America" kind of muppets. So to acknowledge on tv that they don't have the capability to deal with these missiles really struck me.

There are just as many in the military and some scientists who believe they can be shot down. A defence company was given $400 million in 2021 to look into it and they requested another $200 million in 2022. Testing was carried out in Nevada using microwave beam technology. The final outcome of those tests has not been made public. It may not of worked or did and the US don’t want Russia or the Chinese knowing about otherwise they may change their designs or technology. Who knows but I imagine we will all find out one way or the other.

Yeah who knows. The thing that struck me about the interview was how adamant this guy was. The Americans are usually very coy about their shortcomings, but he was very clear that it couldn't be done. Like you say maybe it's all bluff and double bluff. I suppose Vlad will have to launch for us to get an answer.

[Derek27]

There are just as many in the military and some scientists who believe they can be shot down. A defence company was given $400 million in 2021 to look into it and they requested another $200 million in 2022. Testing was carried out in Nevada using microwave beam technology. The final outcome of those tests has not been made public. It may not of worked or did and the US don’t want Russia or the Chinese knowing about otherwise they may change their designs or technology. Who knows but I imagine we will all find out one way or the other.

Wouldn't microwaves cook everybody in the vicinity?

The US and Isreal had a joint laser project that could burn through incoming missiles but they abandoned it as too expensive.

It’s based on a directed microwave energy. No idea how it works. I doubt it’s pin point accurate and you might be right that everything a mile either side gets fried from inside out. What ever it is it’s also expensive and uses a colossal amount of energy, apparently. I don’t think it’s portable.

That's similar to laser (direct energy) weapons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/SEQ-3_ ... e%20weapon.

There was a prototype designed for the battlefield that was powered by a diesel engine and a high-capacity battery.

[Archery1969]

President Biden has just called Putin a dictator and accuses him of genocide in Ukraine. Satellite images show Russia moving missile systems to border with Finland.

Think it’s safe to say that WW3 is now not that far away.

[Derek27]

President Biden has just called Putin a dictator and accuses him of genocide in Ukraine. Satellite images show Russia moving missile systems to border with Finland.

Think it’s safe to say that WW3 is now not that far away.

At some stage we're gonna have to start a nuclear war thread, but right now it would have to be called the scaremongering thread.

[Archery1969]

President Biden has just called Putin a dictator and accuses him of genocide in Ukraine. Satellite images show Russia moving missile systems to border with Finland.

Think it’s safe to say that WW3 is now not that far away.

At some stage we're gonna have to start a nuclear war thread, but right now it would have to be called the scaremongering thread.

Those were very strong words from Biden given what potentially is at stake but he still said them. I imagine he was advised not too.

Personally, I think at some point soon the US and UK are going to up the anti big time which France and Germany may not be fully committed too.

Hopefully I am wrong.

But I think the US and UK are sure the evidence shows some kind of chemical weapon has been used and both countries have indicated that would change their response.

A military expert on SKY suggested how things could play out via sea channels.

[Archery1969]

German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier said on Tuesday he was ready to travel to Kyiv with colleagues from Poland and the Baltic states, but was told his presence in Ukraine would be undesirable.

O dear, maybe cracks will start appearing.

[Derek27]

President Biden has just called Putin a dictator and accuses him of genocide in Ukraine. Satellite images show Russia moving missile systems to border with Finland.

Think it’s safe to say that WW3 is now not that far away.

At some stage we're gonna have to start a nuclear war thread, but right now it would have to be called the scaremongering thread.

Those were very strong words from Biden given what potentially is at stake but he still said them. I imagine he was advised not too.

Personally, I think at some point soon the US and UK are going to up the anti big time which France and Germany may not be fully committed too.

Hopefully I am wrong.

But I think the US and UK are sure the evidence shows some kind of chemical weapon has been used and both countries have indicated that would change their response.

A military expert on SKY suggested how things could play out via sea channels.

There's no question in my mind, and the minds of many, that Putin's a war criminal, dictator and committing genocide. I don't think they were strong words.

There was a slight issue when Biden said Putin must go. The Gremlin viewed it as US agenda to have Putin removed, but that was really Putin spitting the dummy out. Biden was obviously suggesting Putin should not be in power.