Ukraine Crisis

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[Derek27]

Then what the f the "best part of the world" wants from president of Russia? - nato's leaders "had to" ignore Russia's suggestions and (then) warnings and "had to" continue an expansion, the president "had to" start the special operation. There're no saints here, only "had to" biorobots, why listen to some latino dude in a funny bullet proof white car who sees the roots of the conflict and doesn't afraid to say it out loud then, right?

The west is not obliged to follow Russia's "suggestions". As for warnings, you can warn somebody that smoking's not good for you or you can warn them that you'll blow their brains out if they don't hand over their wallet.

"The west is not obliged to follow Russia's "suggestions""

This way of "arrogant stubborn donkey" thinking, this stance led us to where we are now - the threat of nuclear war!

"As for warnings, you can warn somebody that smoking's not good for you or you can warn them that you'll blow their brains out if they don't hand over their wallet."

Or you can warn them that you'll blow their brains out if they don't hand over YOUR 300b "wallet")).

As long as Putin doesn't have everything he wants we'll always be under the threat of nuclear war. If his eggs are underdone at breakfast time, that could ultimately be the trigger!

[napshnap]

The west is not obliged to follow Russia's "suggestions". As for warnings, you can warn somebody that smoking's not good for you or you can warn them that you'll blow their brains out if they don't hand over their wallet.

"The west is not obliged to follow Russia's "suggestions""

This way of "arrogant stubborn donkey" thinking, this stance led us to where we are now - the threat of nuclear war!

"As for warnings, you can warn somebody that smoking's not good for you or you can warn them that you'll blow their brains out if they don't hand over their wallet."

Or you can warn them that you'll blow their brains out if they don't hand over YOUR 300b "wallet")).

As long as Putin doesn't have everything he wants we'll always be under the threat of nuclear war. If his eggs are underdone at breakfast time, that could ultimately be the trigger!

Don't personificate it too much, sooner or later ther will be another president, so let's hope the presidents eggs are alright).

[greenmark]

"The west is not obliged to follow Russia's "suggestions""

This way of "arrogant stubborn donkey" thinking, this stance led us to where we are now - the threat of nuclear war!

"As for warnings, you can warn somebody that smoking's not good for you or you can warn them that you'll blow their brains out if they don't hand over their wallet."

Or you can warn them that you'll blow their brains out if they don't hand over YOUR 300b "wallet")).

As long as Putin doesn't have everything he wants we'll always be under the threat of nuclear war. If his eggs are underdone at breakfast time, that could ultimately be the trigger!

Don't personificate it too much, sooner or later ther will be another president, so let's hope the presidents eggs are alright).

Maybe you can have a word with Putin and we'll have a word with Zelensky, Biden, Johnson, Macron, Schröder, Stoltenberg et al.
A better way forward than what we currently have.

[Derek27]

As long as Putin doesn't have everything he wants we'll always be under the threat of nuclear war. If his eggs are underdone at breakfast time, that could ultimately be the trigger!

Don't personificate it too much, sooner or later ther will be another president, so let's hope the presidents eggs are alright).

Maybe you can have a word with Putin and we'll have a word with Zelensky, Biden, Johnson, Macron, Schröder, Stoltenberg et al.
A better way forward than what we currently have.

What would you say to Zelensky? Don't invade Russia?

[greenmark]

Don't personificate it too much, sooner or later ther will be another president, so let's hope the presidents eggs are alright).

Maybe you can have a word with Putin and we'll have a word with Zelensky, Biden, Johnson, Macron, Schröder, Stoltenberg et al.
A better way forward than what we currently have.

What would you say to Zelensky? Don't invade Russia?

How about try to get round the negotiation table and don't stop trying.
Or to both sides just stop and use come common sense, nut I take your point if you're attacked you defend yourself. But lets not underestimate the cultural attachment Russia has in the Donbas. Sadly its gone way beyond that now. Peace will break out at some point. It's just so sad that these so-called clever leaders can't see that everything between now and then is an utter waste.

[Derek27]

Maybe you can have a word with Putin and we'll have a word with Zelensky, Biden, Johnson, Macron, Schröder, Stoltenberg et al.
A better way forward than what we currently have.

What would you say to Zelensky? Don't invade Russia?

How about try to get round the negotiation table and don't stop trying.
Or to both sides just stop and use come common sense, nut I take your point if you're attacked you defend yourself. But lets not underestimate the cultural attachment Russia has in the Donbas. Sadly its gone way beyond that now. Peace will break out at some point. It's just so sad that these so-called clever leaders can't see that everything between now and then is an utter waste.

It's all well and good negotiating but Putin's not serious in negotiations and talks with a gun pointing at your head isn't really negotiating.

[alexmr2]

It's just so sad that these so-called clever leaders can't see that everything between now and then is an utter waste.

Do you really think that these clever leaders can't see it?

Why would they want it to end? There's so much profit to be made from this crisis. Ukraine is simply a scapegoat that western powers can benefit from massively.

It's the perfect scenario to accelerate new agendas, make money and weaken global competitors like Russia who hold most of the world's resources.

I don't take any sides on a war between two highly corrupt countries. I'm just saying that the west is doing what it does best (stealing from and taking advantage of other countries) as they have done for centuries to maintain first world country position.

Western propaganda is used to make the population turn a blind eye to their methods with amazing success. The British invaded 200 nations throughout history (including the US dropping 300k bombs on other countries in recent history) without anyone batting an eyelid, but are somehow able to convince the public that a leader who stands up to put an end to fighting at the edge of his country is the only bad guy

[Derek27]

There's so much profit to be made from this crisis.

What planet are you on Alex? The west is pouring tens of billions into the war that could be invested into the economy while people struggle to feed themselves and the cost of fuel rockets. The west will end up helping to rebuild the needless destruction of Ukraine. That's profitable?

[alexmr2]

There's so much profit to be made from this crisis.

What planet are you on Alex? The west is pouring tens of billions into the war that could be invested into the economy while people struggle to feed themselves and the cost of fuel rockets. The west will end up helping to rebuild the needless destruction of Ukraine. That's profitable?

Some of that money will go "missing" and end up in the pockets of those at the top, that's where the profit comes in.

The economy was broken beyond repair a while back, now is the time to roll out a solution which will see us change from an unsustainable society that glorifies wasting resources, corruption and debt to a more sustainable one that focuses on conserving resources for the future. This crisis is another great catalyst to accelerate society towards the great reset which will slowly phase out unsustainable consumerism behaviours such as fossil fuel-powered vehicles and holidays abroad

[Derek27]

There's so much profit to be made from this crisis.

What planet are you on Alex? The west is pouring tens of billions into the war that could be invested into the economy while people struggle to feed themselves and the cost of fuel rockets. The west will end up helping to rebuild the needless destruction of Ukraine. That's profitable?

Some of that money will go "missing" and end up in the pockets of those at the top, that's where the profit comes in.

The economy was broken beyond repair a while back, now is the time to roll out a solution which will see us change from an unsustainable society that glorifies wasting resources, corruption and debt to a more sustainable one that focuses on conserving resources for the future. This crisis is another great catalyst to accelerate society towards the great reset which will slowly phase out unsustainable consumerism behaviours such as fossil fuel-powered vehicles and holidays abroad

You think people at the top are happy to see tens of thousands lose their lives just for a bundle of cash? You are depressing!

[napshnap]

There's so much profit to be made from this crisis.

What planet are you on Alex? The west is pouring tens of billions into the war that could be invested into the economy while people struggle to feed themselves and the cost of fuel rockets. The west will end up helping to rebuild the needless destruction of Ukraine. That's profitable?

The country is a black hole for these billions, but if you're smart enough (and not a very moral politician or businessman) you'll get your cut while tearfully convincing the people, taxpayers of the holiness of your mission. As we say - "a war will cover everything".

"That's profitable?"

You know what is profitable? - destabilize Russia, drive out or wipe out most politically active and capable smart people, put disgustingly "enlightened" muppets in the chair thru bloody coup manipulating the most savage and stupid plebeians with some obvious vulgar political "carrots", finally - get resources for the price of glass beads (don't worry, puppets will explain to the plebeians that this is because the plebeians misbehaved and now must suffer, like you suffer now for "green earth" or "progressiveness" or defamed "democratic values" or something else).

[Archery1969]

There are some weird people in life but allot of them seem to be on this forum.

[Trader Pat]

There are some weird people in life but allot of them seem to be on this forum.

Was just thinking that!

There have been a lot of people (actually just a few) who have talked a lot of nonsense on the forum but Napshnap is closing on Alex and James rapidly as we approach the final furlong

EDIT: Maybe around the bend would have been more appropriate

[napshnap]

There are some weird people in life but allot of them seem to be on this forum.

Yeah true, some of them celebrate here (in their posts) every violent gruesome happening.