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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:17 am
Bank robbers don't take photographs of themselves when they're at work. Why do the Tories take photographs of their work meetings? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I confess I'm quite shocked at the footage.
If anyone pops up and says" wel, everyone was breaking the rules" I would say no we flipping weren't and most of those that broke the rules didn't "make" the rules that constrained most of us.
The Tory's are out of control and have been for years now, they have none of the moral compass I normally associate with them.
Utterly disgraceful to do what they did and to conceal it and in BJ's case to suggest "it was nothing to do with me". Yes ex-Prime Minister!
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:51 pm
The Tory's are out of control and have been for years now, they have none of the moral compass I normally associate with them.
When have they ever had moral compass? :lol:
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Labour 1.08 to take the buffoon's old seat, LibDems 1.55/1.6 to take Bedfordshire. Conservative expected to hold Selby.
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:51 pm
The Tory's are out of control and have been for years now, they have none of the moral compass I normally associate with them.
When have they ever had moral compass? :lol:
John Major and er..... hang on let me think!
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:16 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:51 pm
The Tory's are out of control and have been for years now, they have none of the moral compass I normally associate with them.
When have they ever had moral compass? :lol:
John Major and er..... hang on let me think!
Yes, he's the one that went back to basics. Basic sleeze that is. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:37 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:16 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:53 pm


When have they ever had moral compass? :lol:
John Major and er..... hang on let me think!
Yes, he's the one that went back to basics. Basic sleeze that is. :)
What's the link between Major and sleeze? He told his opponents (within his own party) "to put up or shut up". I think he has something BJ will never have - integrity.
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:41 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:37 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:16 pm

John Major and er..... hang on let me think!
Yes, he's the one that went back to basics. Basic sleeze that is. :)
What's the link between Major and sleeze? He told his opponents (within his own party) "to put up or shut up". I think he has something BJ will never have - integrity.
He was later found out to be having an affair while PM.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:12 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:41 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:37 pm


Yes, he's the one that went back to basics. Basic sleeze that is. :)
What's the link between Major and sleeze? He told his opponents (within his own party) "to put up or shut up". I think he has something BJ will never have - integrity.
He was later found out to be having an affair while PM.
If that's your definition of sleaze you are including 66% of the married population.
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:06 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:12 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:41 pm

What's the link between Major and sleeze? He told his opponents (within his own party) "to put up or shut up". I think he has something BJ will never have - integrity.
He was later found out to be having an affair while PM.
If that's your definition of sleaze you are including 66% of the married population.
It's only 66% that get caught. :mrgreen:
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:06 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:12 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:41 pm

What's the link between Major and sleeze? He told his opponents (within his own party) "to put up or shut up". I think he has something BJ will never have - integrity.
He was later found out to be having an affair while PM.
If that's your definition of sleaze you are including 66% of the married population.
You mentioned the word ‘integrity’ ?
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“Research tells us that on average, around 20% of men are unfaithful to their spouse, as compared to 13% of women,” says Leo. “Of course, the only research available is from self-report surveys, so the number might be somewhat higher—but most surveys and studies support this finding.”
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:35 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:06 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:12 pm


He was later found out to be having an affair while PM.
If that's your definition of sleaze you are including 66% of the married population.
You mentioned the word ‘integrity’ ?
Well he did at least express his shame subsequently. And apart from rutting rhino's like BJ affairs can happen to anyone. I would say 25% of my friends have confessed to either an impromptu fling or a relationship tha tjust happened that turned into re-marrying. So it's not a black and white issue.
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:36 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:35 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:06 pm

If that's your definition of sleaze you are including 66% of the married population.
You mentioned the word ‘integrity’ ?
Well he did at least express his shame subsequently. And apart from rutting rhino's like BJ affairs can happen to anyone. I would say 25% of my friends have confessed to either an impromptu fling or a relationship tha tjust happened that turned into re-marrying. So it's not a black and white issue.
Unlike the current shenanigans I am amazed it was kept so secret by all concerned. Although Major’s wife knew and told him to stop it otherwise she was leaving him. Even then she didn’t go public with it. Very rare that happens nowadays. Normally the cat knows what’s going on. :lol:
greenmark
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:07 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:36 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:35 pm


You mentioned the word ‘integrity’ ?
Well he did at least express his shame subsequently. And apart from rutting rhino's like BJ affairs can happen to anyone. I would say 25% of my friends have confessed to either an impromptu fling or a relationship tha tjust happened that turned into re-marrying. So it's not a black and white issue.
Unlike the current shenanigans I am amazed it was kept so secret by all concerned. Although Major’s wife knew and told him to stop it otherwise she was leaving him. Even then she didn’t go public with it. Very rare that happens nowadays. Normally the cat knows what’s going on. :lol:
Can't be bothered to delve into the detail, but it wouldn't surprise me that it was the publication of Edwina Currie's diaries that exposed it.
That's the other oddity about this. An affair with Edwina Currie - I mean WTF. Such an obnoxious person. Evidently we all find love in places that are incomprehensible to others.
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Covid inquiry has broken for lunch. It's amazing how the word lunch makes you feel hungry. :)
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