UK General Election 2024 (or 25)

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Sue Grey found to have broken civil service rules over meetings with Starmer.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:16 pm
Sue Grey found to have broken civil service rules over meetings with Starmer.
Might have misread the news but story I saw said the body responsible for the investigation says she didn't break any rules, however the Downing St investigation says she did... Hatchet job?
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Have you seen the Liaison Committee meeting? They've each got a bottle of vodka on the table. :shock:

I think Sunak's had enough, asked if he attended to vote on Ian Patterson he said, "I can't recall". :lol:

He looked uncomfortable when Bryant told him that MPs at the same charity dinner left after him and still voted in the Boris the Liar vote, the MP sitting next to him on the panel looked as though she was struggling not to laugh. :lol:

Sunak couldn't care less about parliamentary rules being broken but boiled over when the spirit of the rules of cricket is broken. :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:12 pm

Sunak couldn't care less about parliamentary rules being broken but boiled over when the spirit of the rules of cricket is broken. :lol:
"(Sunak's)...spokesman went on to confirm that Sunak believes Australia’s actions were not within the spirit of cricket. As someone whose wife’s tax affairs were for so long within the letter of the law, but certainly not the spirit of it, you’d think Sunak would avoid these little forays into matters that don’t concern him. Furthermore, it seems glaringly odd that he should find time to have a public view on this business, when he couldn’t find time to vote on the standards committee’s damning report into Boris Johnson’s Partygate lies, nor allow his spokesman to opine on whether or not he even agreed with it. Is true leadership having a view on a stumping but not on whether it’s actually bad to lie to parliament" Marina Hyde
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Coutts Bank accepts customers that fall slightly short of their £1M criteria, unless your name is Nigel Farage. :D
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sionascaig wrote:
Tue Jul 04, 2023 4:19 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:12 pm

Sunak couldn't care less about parliamentary rules being broken but boiled over when the spirit of the rules of cricket is broken. :lol:
"(Sunak's)...spokesman went on to confirm that Sunak believes Australia’s actions were not within the spirit of cricket. As someone whose wife’s tax affairs were for so long within the letter of the law, but certainly not the spirit of it, you’d think Sunak would avoid these little forays into matters that don’t concern him. Furthermore, it seems glaringly odd that he should find time to have a public view on this business, when he couldn’t find time to vote on the standards committee’s damning report into Boris Johnson’s Partygate lies, nor allow his spokesman to opine on whether or not he even agreed with it. Is true leadership having a view on a stumping but not on whether it’s actually bad to lie to parliament" Marina Hyde
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John McDonnell says Keir Starmer is purging the left of the party:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66105250
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:48 pm
John McDonnell says Keir Starmer is purging the left of the party:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66105250
McDonnell and Corbyn were unelectable. Any remnants of their reign does need purging.
The public do not want McDonnell's and Corbyn's potlitics. It's sad but it's true. It's too radical. Think Michaeal Foot, Tony Benn and you get my drift.
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 04, 2023 11:01 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:48 pm
John McDonnell says Keir Starmer is purging the left of the party:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66105250
McDonnell and Corbyn were unelectable. Any remnants of their reign does need purging.
The public do not want McDonnell's and Corbyn's potlitics. It's sad but it's true. It's too radical. Think Michaeal Foot, Tony Benn and you get my drift.
Good point
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The UK's biggest liar and hypocrite accuses Bernard Jenkin of "monstrous hypocrisy"! Best example of pot calling the kettle black I've seen. :)
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Chris Bum Pincher facing a lengthy sanction and could bring the number of by-elections up to 5. :D
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Starmer speaking clearly and fluently ... at the head of the national curriculum!! What will he think of next? :lol:
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sionascaig wrote:
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As someone whose wife’s tax affairs were for so long within the letter of the law, but certainly not the spirit of it
Why not within the spirit of the law ... I refer you to Lord Clyde's judgement re Ayrshire Pullman Motor Services and Ritchie v. IRC (1929) where he declared in his judgement "No man in this country is under the smallest obligation, moral or other, so to arrange his legal relations to his business or to his property as to enable the Inland Revenue to put the largest possible shovel into his stores.”

Clearly Rishi's wife's tax affairs were fully within the spirit of that judgement.

Let me try to clear up the confusion over this Non-Dom issue. The Non-Dom tax position is that someone who is not domiciled in this country is not liable to UK tax on their OVERSEAS income and gains that they DO NOT REMIT TO THIS COUNTRY. Why should the UK Government expect to receive tax on money that has never set foot in this country and where the individual is not domiciled here? They remain liable for UK tax on any income/gains arising in the UK or remitted here. What's not fair about that? The uproar over the Non-Dom tax arrangement is a clear case of Labour intentionally misleading (intentionally lying? now where have I heard that term recently?) to the public and a not-knowing media jumping on yet another bandwagon!

This HMRC webpage explains in more detail including a definition of Non-Domiciled status.
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Looks like Sir Keir will be in for a tough time during his first term:


- Scrapping Tuition Fees. "The cost would be £6 billion per year. Given the financial situation the country faces, its likely we will have to move away from this position.

- Higher Rate Income Tax. "We are in a different situation now, the tax burden is already the highest since WW2, increasing the tax burden on the top 5% would not be a sensible move"

- Nationalising Public services. "Public services should be in public hands, not making profits for share holders. But the cost of bringing these back into public ownership would be to great"

- Freedom of movement. "A swiss type deal would not work for Britain, there is no appetite in the country for renegotiating brexit. But we will try to have a better working relationship with the EU"

- Green energy. "This would involve spending over £28 billion each year. The economy in the short to medium term could not afford this level of expenditure"

- Public sector pay. "Everyone derserves to earn a good salary. However, we cant commit to any % increases before the election until we see the state of the public finances"


I might be wrong but I suspect nothing much is going to happen during the first 4 years of a Labour Government.
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I hope Starmer has better security when he becomes PM. :lol: It took about a minute for those idiots to be escorted off-stage!
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