UK General Election 2024 (or 25)

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Archery1969
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arbitrage16 wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:36 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:41 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:03 pm


Retiring servicemen, boo hoo. Maybe if you go over to a foreign country "uninvited" with guns and grenades then you get what you deserve.
Ordered to by successive governments, you muppet.
Just remembered you're the forum snitch, per the Ukraine thread
You better believe it.
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firlandsfarm
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arbitrage16 wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:03 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2023 12:02 pm
Official government policy: If asylum seekers don't like barges they should fuck off back to France. :lol:
Couldn't agree more. Maybe if we treated them the same as we treat our retiring servicemen they wouldn't be so keen to come!
Retiring servicemen, boo hoo. Maybe if you go over to a foreign country "uninvited" with guns and grenades then you get what you deserve.
I think you may need to straighten your thinking. Whether our servicemen were invited or not into the foreign country as you put it should have no bearing on it. They were ordered to do so by our Government' and it should be our Governement's responsibility to care for them.

And as for invitations ... I don't believe Hitler invited us into Germany so the Allied Forces were wrong to bring him down then, yes?

BTW I don't recall us inviting the illegal boat people!
arbitrage16
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:59 am
arbitrage16 wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:03 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:56 am

Couldn't agree more. Maybe if we treated them the same as we treat our retiring servicemen they wouldn't be so keen to come!
Retiring servicemen, boo hoo. Maybe if you go over to a foreign country "uninvited" with guns and grenades then you get what you deserve.
I think you may need to straighten your thinking.
Pretty sure I don't need advice on my thinking from the guy who has been trading for at least 7 years and still doesn't understand how the market moves :D
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Derek27
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Sunak's found the solution for failing to meet targets. Scrap the targets. :)
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firlandsfarm
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arbitrage16 wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:44 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:59 am
arbitrage16 wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:03 pm


Retiring servicemen, boo hoo. Maybe if you go over to a foreign country "uninvited" with guns and grenades then you get what you deserve.
I think you may need to straighten your thinking.
Pretty sure I don't need advice on my thinking from the guy who has been trading for at least 7 years and still doesn't understand how the market moves :D
Trading: Oh dear, yet another fine example of someone who doesn't read what somebody says but responds based on what they think he may have said!!

Context: I was just pointing out how your comment did not stand up to logical analysis ... nothing to do with trading!

Never mind and do feel free to try again.
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Derek27
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I can't fly but don't have a problem sitting in a comfortable cabin at 40,000 feet, nor can I swim but have no problem standing on a vessel out of sight of land, never mind a vessel moored up, anchored to the seabed and tied to the shore.

Complain about the conditions of the vessel and legionella by all means, but arguing that you can't swim... :lol:
arbitrage16
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:03 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:44 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:59 am

I think you may need to straighten your thinking.
Pretty sure I don't need advice on my thinking from the guy who has been trading for at least 7 years and still doesn't understand how the market moves :D
Trading: Oh dear, yet another fine example of someone who doesn't read what somebody says but responds based on what they think he may have said!!

Context: I was just pointing out how your comment did not stand up to logical analysis ... nothing to do with trading!

Never mind and do feel free to try again.
And I'm offering evidence for how someone who doesn't know how to trade is pontificating on a trading forum about more things he has no clue about.

Know nothing and incompetent - are you a Tory MP?
greenmark
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Meanwhile back at the ranch our "government" .

"Wethersfield: Priti Patel accuses government of being 'secretive' over asylum housing plan"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66502375

Why do we have to suffer this incestuous Tory squabbling? 13 years of failing and greed (other than covid vaccine rollout). But they sanctioned Brexit. Great job there! How stupid do you have to be to continue with this utter bunch of self-serving w***ers?
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firlandsfarm
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arbitrage16 wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:12 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:03 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:44 am


Pretty sure I don't need advice on my thinking from the guy who has been trading for at least 7 years and still doesn't understand how the market moves :D
Trading: Oh dear, yet another fine example of someone who doesn't read what somebody says but responds based on what they think he may have said!!

Context: I was just pointing out how your comment did not stand up to logical analysis ... nothing to do with trading!

Never mind and do feel free to try again.
And I'm offering evidence for how someone who doesn't know how to trade is pontificating on a trading forum about more things he has no clue about.

Know nothing and incompetent - are you a Tory MP?
Well |I will leave it for others to decide but what trading has to do with what has morphed into a political discussion I don't know ... instead of demonstrating that the only conversation you can have is one that is based on insults why not go away and study the language then at least you might make relevant contributions.
arbitrage16
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:42 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:12 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:03 pm

Trading: Oh dear, yet another fine example of someone who doesn't read what somebody says but responds based on what they think he may have said!!

Context: I was just pointing out how your comment did not stand up to logical analysis ... nothing to do with trading!

Never mind and do feel free to try again.
And I'm offering evidence for how someone who doesn't know how to trade is pontificating on a trading forum about more things he has no clue about.

Know nothing and incompetent - are you a Tory MP?
why not go away and study the language then at least you might make relevant contributions.
We've already talked about my studying, and you had a problem with that. So which is it? Can't be both dummy! You can barely string a coherent argument together, contradicting yourself from one message to the next.

Your next tactic is to storm off, saying you haven't got time for this. The usual retreating bluster.

You can't trade, you vote for a party of shit heads, you're a Tory MP
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firlandsfarm
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arbitrage16 wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:41 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:42 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:12 pm


And I'm offering evidence for how someone who doesn't know how to trade is pontificating on a trading forum about more things he has no clue about.

Know nothing and incompetent - are you a Tory MP?
why not go away and study the language then at least you might make relevant contributions.
We've already talked about my studying, and you had a problem with that. So which is it? Can't be both dummy! You can barely string a coherent argument together, contradicting yourself from one message to the next.

Your next tactic is to storm off, saying you haven't got time for this. The usual retreating bluster.

You can't trade, you vote for a party of shit heads, you're a Tory MP
OK, so you think throwing insults at someone is 'stringing a coherent argument together' :lol: :lol: :lol:

Saying that I don't intend to reply further is not 'storming off', I can say it quietly as I am now. I can't see any point in continuing to point out your flaws, you clearly see yourself as always right so I'm happy for you.

You can't even get the trading issue right! I don't trade, never have (that's another thing you keep getting wrong!) and I'm still waiting for you to explain how my trading ability has anything to do with my reference to your illogical post. Are you alexmr2 in disguise?
greenmark
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:21 pm
arbitrage16 wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:41 am
firlandsfarm wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:42 pm

why not go away and study the language then at least you might make relevant contributions.
We've already talked about my studying, and you had a problem with that. So which is it? Can't be both dummy! You can barely string a coherent argument together, contradicting yourself from one message to the next.

Your next tactic is to storm off, saying you haven't got time for this. The usual retreating bluster.

You can't trade, you vote for a party of shit heads, you're a Tory MP
OK, so you think throwing insults at someone is 'stringing a coherent argument together' :lol: :lol: :lol:

Saying that I don't intend to reply further is not 'storming off', I can say it quietly as I am now. I can't see any point in continuing to point out your flaws, you clearly see yourself as always right so I'm happy for you.

You can't even get the trading issue right! I don't trade, never have (that's another thing you keep getting wrong!) and I'm still waiting for you to explain how my trading ability has anything to do with my reference to your illogical post. Are you alexmr2 in disguise?
I know I have form in thread friction, but can I say I always look at your posts. You both have insight and intelligence beyond my own. I would much prefer you to dedicate your energy to exploration/debate of ideas rather than knocking chunks off each other. Just my opinion.
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Derek27
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I've always imagined at times like this Sunak has to pretend to care about football, but it turns out he's a keen Southampton supporter, where he grew up!
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Derek27
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Andrew Malkinson could have been released from prison 13 years ago if the CPS investigated new DNA evidence, while Starmer was at the helm!

Don't know if he had any involvement with the case but I'm surprised the dirt isn't flying like it does with previous cases under his watch.
Archery1969
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:11 pm
Andrew Malkinson could have been released from prison 13 years ago if the CPS investigated new DNA evidence, while Starmer was at the helm!

Don't know if he had any involvement with the case but I'm surprised the dirt isn't flying like it does with previous cases under his watch.
I imagine many people don’t want the truth coming out about what really happened.

- Police stitch up
- Police covering up mistakes
- Police losing evidence and/or hiding it
- CPS and Police collusion
- CPS not reviewing documents properly
- CPS ignoring new evidence
- Courts refusing to look at new evidence
- Payroll board not reviewing court documents and new defence evidence

I suspect many people should face prosecution but it could run into hundreds of them.

Best to try and pay him off and hope it all goes away but it won’t because he bringing out a book.

But out of all of them I would say the Police are most at fault with this case which could/should result in Greater Manchester Police being disbanded asap.
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