Best Way Of Spotting a Horse Playing Up on The Ladders?

[lm1994]

Hi all,

I wondered what people feel is the best way of defining a horse that is playing up on course by using only the ladders to make your judgment.

This would come in handy when backing a runner where all signs are pointing towards a gamble starting to occur, the runner's price contracting and breaking through the bottom of its range.

However, the horse starts to play up on course, in turn reversing the prevailing market sentiment and the price abruptly starts to drift.

Of course, this is visually very obvious when watching the live video or on the TV, but I wondered, how people would define this by only using the ladders (something like this would potentially also be useful for adopting into an automation rule as well).

[Dallas]

If a horse starts playing up, sweating badly without pictures its only the sudden drift on the ladders that will tell you something is up as people start piling in with lay bets

But it may also be drifting for any number of other reasons, ie, it's bolting to the start in a 5f sprint race, the owner or trainer has just said it has no chance to a pundit

[ShaunWhite]

If a horse starts playing up, sweating badly without pictures its only the sudden drift on the ladders that will tell you something is up as people start piling in with lay bets

And if its on the verge of being withdrawn it might even reverse and steam hard to force the rest out to counteract the rule 4. Or it always plays up and nobody bats an eyelid. But yeah, rapid drift usually.

[Dallas]

If a horse starts playing up, sweating badly without pictures its only the sudden drift on the ladders that will tell you something is up as people start piling in with lay bets

And if its on the verge of being withdrawn it might even reverse and steam hard to force the rest out to counteract the rule 4. Or it always plays up and nobody bats an eyelid. But yeah, rapid drift usually.

I remember once seeing that go very badly wrong for someone once, after they took on the lay money and then forced it in from something like 20s-30s down to about 3s-4s it never got withdrawn - the market then went into a frantic tail spin while they tried to dump a huge position.

One of those times I thought serves you right and couldn't help but laugh, not sure what it cost them in the end but it won't have been a cheap balls up

[ShaunWhite]

. We all have winners and losers, but some people's losers are what Elon's rocket team would call a Rapid Unscheduled Disssembly.

[StellaBot]

Could be the horse excited wanting to run
sweating up as excited

Or opposite
Maybe about knowing the horse
and
some horses freak out with say movement of flowers etc
or other horses tails swishing
lots of other reasons that cant be controlled

So eg horses that get taken to the start early and in a hood

some examples , Im sure there are more