How much liquidity at BSP?

[Anbell]

Sorry wheres that? Its a part of BA or BF I don't use

on the bf website, click the graph for the popup
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Ohh!

Many thanks

The numbers at 1.01 and 1000 are pure bsp, and the others are LoC

[napshnap]

on the bf website, click the graph for the popup
image_2024-05-27_155229219.png

Ohh!

Many thanks

The numbers at 1.01 and 1000 are pure bsp, and the others are LoC

Never thought about this before but can other market players see unmatched pure bsps?

[Anbell]

Ohh!

Many thanks

The numbers at 1.01 and 1000 are pure bsp, and the others are LoC

Never thought about this before but can other market players see unmatched pure bsps?

Yes. The numbers at 1.01 and 1000 are pure bsp

[napshnap]

The numbers at 1.01 and 1000 are pure bsp, and the others are LoC

Never thought about this before but can other market players see unmatched pure bsps?

Yes. The numbers at 1.01 and 1000 are pure bsp

Others can see unmatched pure bsps, that's interesting...

[buyshirts]

Leading on from the original question does anyone know how accurate this BSP is as a predictor of the results?

It seems to me the perceived wisdom, on horse racing at least is that the BSP is a fairly accurate guide. Now i have not tested this and it may well be out of date and thus be untrue now.

So i wonder if you were to beat the BSP on Greyhounds say by 3% would you expect to be shwoing a long term profit?

[Anbell]

Never thought about this before but can other market players see unmatched pure bsps?

Yes. The numbers at 1.01 and 1000 are pure bsp

Others can see unmatched pure bsps, that's interesting...

I'm not sure what you mean by 'unmatched'? Once they are placed they are not reversible, and they are matched when the event starts. (Take SP is different because it can be cancelled)

[Anbell]

So i wonder if you were to beat the BSP on Greyhounds say by 3% would you expect to be shwoing a long term profit?

In theory, yes. If you beat BSP by 3% you would have a very good edge.

[napshnap]

Yes. The numbers at 1.01 and 1000 are pure bsp

Others can see unmatched pure bsps, that's interesting...

I'm not sure what you mean by 'unmatched'? Once they are placed they are not reversible, and they are matched when the event starts. (Take SP is different because it can be cancelled)

Yeah I know the stuff, I meant pre-play, before start time, before suspension.

[Euler]

I don't think Take SP orders are present in these numbers? So it's a guess as to what money will be taken to SP. Not sure you can predict it.

[Fugazi]

Leading on from the original question does anyone know how accurate this BSP is as a predictor of the results?

It seems to me the perceived wisdom, on horse racing at least is that the BSP is a fairly accurate guide. Now i have not tested this and it may well be out of date and thus be untrue now.

So i wonder if you were to beat the BSP on Greyhounds say by 3% would you expect to be shwoing a long term profit?

I just did a full backtest, backing / laying at BSP for every greyhound ever. No profitable strategy:

viewtopic.php?p=356546#p356546

This suggests that commission cannot be beaten if you blindly back / lay at BSP. Therefore, BSP is an accurate reflection of true odds to within 2% over a full sample. Though that doesn't mean some races the BSP is the true odds, but on average over a large sample it is. It also does not mean you can't be profitable betting at BSP, but you would need to be selective.

[Anbell]

I don't think Take SP orders are present in these numbers? So it's a guess as to what money will be taken to SP. Not sure you can predict it.

Correct, correct, and correct.